[78-L] Blues and Greys...

[Taylor Bowie]

But there was clearly a transition period.  My Haymes of Old Man of the 
Mountain is 2704-D and it's all black.

I have an all-black copy of Selvin 2628-D and an all black Madriguera of 
2690-D.

I'm beginning to think that they didn't go "all blue,  all the time" until 
maybe the mid-2700s.  All the Goodmans I have from 1933-35 are all blue,  as 
are all my Paul Pendarvis from 1934-35.

On a related subject...what's with those sort of bluish and greyish 
Brunswicks from 1936-37?  Were they using up some diluted old blue stuff?

Taylor


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Royal Pemberton" <ampex354 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [78-L] First Blue Wax Columbia issue?


> I'd guess upper reaches of the 2600s.  I have:
> 2628-D--Ben Selvin, recorded February 1932; blue wax with black labels;
> 2687-D--Art Kassel, recorded 27 June 1932; blue wax/blue labels;
> 2690-D--Enric Madriguera, recorded 27 July 1932; blue wax/blue labels;
> 2927-D--Benny Goodman, recorded 13 May 1934; blue wax/blue labels;
> 2948-D--Phil Regan, recorded 7th August 1934; blue wax/blue labels
> (matrix numbers CO.15541 and 15542, the lowest of the ARC Columbia
> series);
> 3079-D--Red Norvo, recorded 25 January 1935; black wax/blue labels*;
> 3114-D--Henry Hall (recorded in England for Columbia 13 November 1935,
> UK mx CA.15445-1, dubbed to CO.18559-1)//Lew Stone (recorded in
> England for Regal Zonophone 21 October 1935, UK mx CAR.3680-1, dubbed
> to CO.18560-1), dubbings made 23 January 1936; blue wax and blue
> labels.
>
> * This record has the 1933-1936 style capitalised Columbia blue
> labels.  In NOTE THE NOTES a copy of 3079-D with the 1936-c.1938
> COLUMBIA (all caps) is shown.
>
> I have a couple of black wax/blue label Masterworks items with the
> 'Label copyright 1937 by Columbia Phonograph Co.' legend:
>
> 4217-M--Don Cossacks Choir/Serge Jaroff, pressed from (German?)
> matrices CR.636 and CR.637;
> 9115-M--Dora Labbette, pressed from UK matrices CAX.6287 and CAX.6288.
>
> I don't know when 4217-M was recorded; I can only narrow 9115-M to 1932.
>
> On 3/18/09, Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com> wrote:
>> If one were to guess...would the first original issue blue waxers be in 
>> the
>> 2600D series or 2700D?  I recall my Joe Haymes of Old Man of the Mountain 
>> is
>> a 2700 and it is all black.  Or is that another function of the different
>> pressing plants following different paths?
>>
>> I am pleased that Royal is answering my questions about "Royal Blue"
>> records...that seems very appropriate!
>>
>> Taylor B
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Royal Pemberton" <ampex354 at gmail.com>
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] First Blue Wax Columbia issue?
>>
>>
>>> It's hard to say.  Likely depends on the pressing plants rather like
>>> how it was when they abandoned the blue discs and went back to black.
>>> There may even be some records whose initial appearance was on blue
>>> discs but whose label stocks were printed on some of the last of the
>>> black labels.
>>>
>>> On 3/18/09, Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com> wrote:
>>>> This info may be somewhere on the net,  but can anyone tell me for
>>>> certain
>>>> what is the earliest  Columbia popular issue which was originally 
>>>> issued
>>>> on
>>>> Blue Wax?  I don't mean reissues of old Ted Lewis,  etc.  but the first
>>>> original Blue Wax.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks from
>>>>
>>>> Taylor B
>>>>
>>>>
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