[78-L] Liberty Music Shop, NYC

[Tbroo at aol.com]

Actually this was rather common in the 1890s, when most cylinder  phonographs 
could record as well as play back and national "labels" were just  getting 
started. There are lots of reports of traveling artists (including some  of the 
black groups in "Lost Sounds") recording for local record stores as they  
passed through a town. Sweatman is supposed to have recorded "Maple Leaf Rag"  for 
a Minneapolis store in 1903-04. I guess you could argue whether these were  
"labels," but some of the stores seemed to have ongoing recording operations. I 
 have some 1890s brown wax announced as for the "Hall Music Company of 
Chicago,"  which I assume was a record store.
 
Discs may be another matter, but I think some of the pirate labels of the  
early 1900s pressed under store names.
 
Tim B.
 
>>Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:08:40 -0500
From: David Lennick  <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [78-L] Liberty Music Shop,  NYC
To: 78-L Mail List _78-l at klickitat.78online.com_ 
(mailto:78-l at klickitat.78online.com) 

Weren't  there some in the 1920s? Not the store labels that Columbia et al 
pressed,  but didn't we read the other week that the Eva Tanguay record on 
Nordskog  was issued by a music store? As for regular store labels, LMS dates 
from  1932 or slightly earlier, I think. Gramophone Shop Varieties starts 
around  
1934. I'm probably ignoring a lot of European labels..Maurice Chevalier was  
on 
Salabert in Paris in the 20s; was that a store label or a publisher's  label?

dl

soundthink at aol.com wrote:
> What was the first  record shop to issue its own masters (whether or not 
they were pressed by a  major record company)? I need to know this information 
for my book on the Jazz  Man label, which issued original recordings of Lu 
Watters recorded in December  1941.
> 
> Cary Ginell
> 
> 
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>  To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Sun, 8 Mar  2009 10:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Liberty Music Shop, NYC
>  
> 
> 
> Rabson's and Schirmer's (the publisher) also produced  records, and don't 
forget 
> the Commodore Music Shop. All of them used  the major record labels to 
process 
> and press the discs, but the stores  had a select clientele they felt the 
majors 
> weren't paying attention  to. They also reissued discs that the majors had 
> deleted or put out  masters from English Decca and EMI of Reginald Gardiner 
and 
> Gracie  Fields.
> 
> dl
> 
> 
> 78records at cdbpdx.com  wrote:
>> I have some Beatrice Lillie 78s recorded with Liberty Music  Shop and 
> Gramophone Shop Varieties labels.  This implies these  records were made 
for 
> these music shops.  Were music shops capable  of producing their own record 
> labels?  Are these a specialty  series?  Were other artists recorded on 
similar 
> labels?   Thanks!

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