[78-L] Liberty Music Shop, NYC

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Mon Mar 9 09:35:37 PDT 2009


This will take a lot of searching, but somewhere I definitely have an 
acoustical ten-incher with a store label, probably a duplicate of a Bell or 
Arto or (can't remember). I found it in Rochester at Record Archive, where it 
was on the wall.

dl

Michael Biel wrote:
> David Lennick wrote:
>> Weren't there some in the 1920s? Not the store labels that Columbia et al 
>> pressed,
> 
> But as is mentioned later on in this, the later ones were also produced 
> thru the major companies.  The difference is that these in the 20s did 
> not use the store name as the label name, and practically the only one 
> which had the store name somewhere on the label was W.T. Grant for Diva. 
>>  but didn't we read the other week that the Eva Tanguay record on 
>> Nordskog was issued by a music store?
> 
> This might be the first one to have the label name the name of the store 
> -- but see how long it lasted!  I think it was a furniture store.  I had 
> heard the family is still in business, and there is a company making 
> racing car parts.  Another company with that name is a religious book 
> publisher. 
> 
> 
> This is an anonymous posting on the discussion page for Nordskog on 
> Wikipedia.
> 
> "Nordskog records was actually located in Santa Monica, Ca on Ocean 
> blvd. close to the Santa Monica Pier. Also, after the initial problems 
> with the waxes being sent back east [to ARTO], Andrae Nordskog began 
> pressing his own records at the Santa Monica facility. I know this 
> because I'm his great-grandson and have the photos and documents. The 
> original recording device is at the Smithsonian, in Washington, D.C. The 
> family is still in possession of many of the copper pressings."
> 
>   This looks like a job for Cary G!!  There is also a listing for 
> Andrae's papers.  http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf7s2006cg
> But there is another listing of papers for Anre Nordskog, and this is 
> definitely the right one.  
> http://siris-archives.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?uri=full=3100001~!228160!0
> 
> There is another note on a listing that says
> 
> "Brad Kay, musician, collector, and occasional record producer from
> Venice, California (just South of Santa Monica) is in contact with
> Erik Nordskog, great grandson of Andre/Arnie Nordskog."
> 
> Brad -- are you here??  Tell us about this!!
> 
> 
>>  As for regular store labels, LMS dates 
>> from 1932 or slightly earlier, I think. Gramophone Shop Varieties starts around 
>> 1934. 
> 
> ARC pressongs?
> 
> 
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com 
>> I'm probably ignoring a lot of European labels..Maurice Chevalier was on 
>> Salabert in Paris in the 20s; was that a store label or a publisher's label?
>>
>> dl
>>
>> soundthink at aol.com wrote:
>>   
>>> What was the first record shop to issue its own masters (whether or not they were pressed by a major record company)? I need to know this information for my book on the Jazz Man label, which issued original recordings of Lu Watters recorded in December 1941.
>>>
>>> Cary Ginell
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:19 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Liberty Music Shop, NYC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rabson's and Schirmer's (the publisher) also produced records, and don't forget 
>>> the Commodore Music Shop. All of them used the major record labels to process 
>>> and press the discs, but the stores had a select clientele they felt the majors 
>>> weren't paying attention to. They also reissued discs that the majors had 
>>> deleted or put out masters from English Decca and EMI of Reginald Gardiner and 
>>> Gracie Fields.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>>
>>> 78records at cdbpdx.com wrote:
>>>     
>>>> I have some Beatrice Lillie 78s recorded with Liberty Music Shop and 
>>>>       
>>> Gramophone Shop Varieties labels.  This implies these records were made for 
>>> these music shops.  Were music shops capable of producing their own record 
>>> labels?  Are these a specialty series?  Were other artists recorded on similar 
>>> labels?  Thanks!
>>>     
>>>> _________________
>>>>       
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