[78-L] Liberty Music Shop, NYC
David Lennick
dlennick at sympatico.ca
Mon Mar 9 09:35:37 PDT 2009
This will take a lot of searching, but somewhere I definitely have an
acoustical ten-incher with a store label, probably a duplicate of a Bell or
Arto or (can't remember). I found it in Rochester at Record Archive, where it
was on the wall.
dl
Michael Biel wrote:
> David Lennick wrote:
>> Weren't there some in the 1920s? Not the store labels that Columbia et al
>> pressed,
>
> But as is mentioned later on in this, the later ones were also produced
> thru the major companies. The difference is that these in the 20s did
> not use the store name as the label name, and practically the only one
> which had the store name somewhere on the label was W.T. Grant for Diva.
>> but didn't we read the other week that the Eva Tanguay record on
>> Nordskog was issued by a music store?
>
> This might be the first one to have the label name the name of the store
> -- but see how long it lasted! I think it was a furniture store. I had
> heard the family is still in business, and there is a company making
> racing car parts. Another company with that name is a religious book
> publisher.
>
>
> This is an anonymous posting on the discussion page for Nordskog on
> Wikipedia.
>
> "Nordskog records was actually located in Santa Monica, Ca on Ocean
> blvd. close to the Santa Monica Pier. Also, after the initial problems
> with the waxes being sent back east [to ARTO], Andrae Nordskog began
> pressing his own records at the Santa Monica facility. I know this
> because I'm his great-grandson and have the photos and documents. The
> original recording device is at the Smithsonian, in Washington, D.C. The
> family is still in possession of many of the copper pressings."
>
> This looks like a job for Cary G!! There is also a listing for
> Andrae's papers. http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf7s2006cg
> But there is another listing of papers for Anre Nordskog, and this is
> definitely the right one.
> http://siris-archives.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?uri=full=3100001~!228160!0
>
> There is another note on a listing that says
>
> "Brad Kay, musician, collector, and occasional record producer from
> Venice, California (just South of Santa Monica) is in contact with
> Erik Nordskog, great grandson of Andre/Arnie Nordskog."
>
> Brad -- are you here?? Tell us about this!!
>
>
>> As for regular store labels, LMS dates
>> from 1932 or slightly earlier, I think. Gramophone Shop Varieties starts around
>> 1934.
>
> ARC pressongs?
>
>
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
>> I'm probably ignoring a lot of European labels..Maurice Chevalier was on
>> Salabert in Paris in the 20s; was that a store label or a publisher's label?
>>
>> dl
>>
>> soundthink at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> What was the first record shop to issue its own masters (whether or not they were pressed by a major record company)? I need to know this information for my book on the Jazz Man label, which issued original recordings of Lu Watters recorded in December 1941.
>>>
>>> Cary Ginell
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:19 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Liberty Music Shop, NYC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rabson's and Schirmer's (the publisher) also produced records, and don't forget
>>> the Commodore Music Shop. All of them used the major record labels to process
>>> and press the discs, but the stores had a select clientele they felt the majors
>>> weren't paying attention to. They also reissued discs that the majors had
>>> deleted or put out masters from English Decca and EMI of Reginald Gardiner and
>>> Gracie Fields.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>>
>>> 78records at cdbpdx.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have some Beatrice Lillie 78s recorded with Liberty Music Shop and
>>>>
>>> Gramophone Shop Varieties labels. This implies these records were made for
>>> these music shops. Were music shops capable of producing their own record
>>> labels? Are these a specialty series? Were other artists recorded on similar
>>> labels? Thanks!
>>>
>>>> _________________
>>>>
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