[78-L] 1907 Royal Sewing Machine promo record

bruce78rpm at comcast.net bruce78rpm at comcast.net
Sun Feb 15 14:36:12 PST 2009


I forgot to mention that the dimension of my P-2 also match the dimensions stated in the advertisement (12 1/2" by 12 1/2") & approx. 6" high. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com> 
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Subject: Re: [78-L] 1907 Royal Sewing Machine promo record 

Correction: The sentence below should read: 

> Looking at my green hardback and the second edition of Baumbach it seems obvious that it is a P Premium model which happens to be closely related to the Royal. 

Correction also made below. 

Michael Biel wrote: 
> bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote: 
> 
>> Wow, great minds think alike, I already sent Mike a request off line for a scan of that Ad. It would be great to have it with my little Victor P-2 !! 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
>> From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu> 
>> Any chance of getting a scan of the ad, Mike? I'd like to see what model 
>> Victor it is. I'm guessing it is a P. 
>> 
>> Ron L 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Scans have been sent out, and I can send it to anyone else who asks. 
> When I bought the flyer I took it over to Brian Gorrell who is a 
> phonograph dealer/collector who has a booth at the same market. Looking 
> thru the paperback Baumbach first edition, it seemed to be a Victor 
> Royal, partially because of the initial confusion not realizing that the 
> Royal discussed in the ad was their sewing machine. Looking at my green 
> hardback and the second edition of Baumbach it seems obvious that it is 
> a P Premium model which happens to be closely related to the Royal. One 
> interesting feature on my scan is the speed control on the side of the 
> machine. This would match Baumbach's description of the P's motor being 
> mounted on the bottom of the case because if the motor is on the top 
> plate the speed control has to be on the top plate also. Does your P-2 
> have this type of speed control, Bruce? 
> 
> And remember, I am STILL interested in finding out about the RECORD 
> about the Royal Sewing Machine! 
> 
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
> 
>> On Behalf Of Michael Biel 
>> 
>> Does anybody have, or know of, a record made in 1907 that would be a 
>> store promotional record about the New Royal Sewing Machine. Today at 
>> the monthly collectibles market I got a 1907 mailer from the Illinois 
>> Sewing Machine Co, Chicago, with a large picture of a front mount Victor 
>> that would be given for free to sewing machine dealers who ordered and 
>> payed for six Royal sewing machines at $19 ea. Along with the free 
>> Victor phonograph would come "three musical records" and "one special 
>> record giving a talk on the New Royal". A Victor label is shown on the 
>> top record of the four, but since we don't see the other labels there is 
>> no way of knowing if the special record was actually a Victor or some 
>> other label. Anybody know? 
>> 
>> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
>> 
> 
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