[78-L] Klezmer

[yves francois]

Taylor
It may of been Tarras that was offended by the term. In the later 1970's younger musicians came back to the Freileich music in the 1970's they used the previously pejorative term Klezmer, something Tarras (if I recall in something I read or heard in a documentary years ago) was a bit surprised on. 
    The term was like jazz, a term that became a positive term over time, but also a bit like "space age bachelor pad music" (eg Esquivel and the like, yet another genre that I enjoy very much), where the term was coined after the fact, in Klezmer's case it was somewhere between the two.
    I believe at one point in time he (Tarras) was considered to be the Goodman of Freileich /Kelzmer music. He certainly was a complete musician, and his recordings show a clear scene of jazz timing and technique, even if he really did not play jazz per se (here I can only talk about the recordings I have heard and what i have read about him)
Yves Francois (who enjoys playing a Freileich when the occasion arises)

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com> wrote:

> From: Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Klezmer
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 11:52 PM
> That is interesting...hard to imagine anyone thinking that
> somebody like 
> Dave Tarras was anything but first class,  all the way!
> 
> Maybe the word started out the same way the American word
> "jazz" 
> did...happily the original negative connotations are all
> long gone.
> 
> Taylor
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "yves francois"
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> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Klezmer was:Newspeak (was:Racially 
> OffensiveLanguage/Robeson)
> 
> 
> > Mike
> > A very happy new year to you
> > Was not klezmer was originally a designation of an
> itinerant Jewish folk 
> > musician (a sort of "back alley woodsman"),
> I seem to recall that some of 
> > the survivors did not like the term at all and saw it
> to mean a second 
> > class musician.
> > All the best
> > Yves
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 1/25/09, Michael Biel
> <mbiel at mbiel.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> >> Subject: [78-L] Newspeak (was:Racially Offensive
> Language/Robeson)
> >> To: "78-L Mail List"
> <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 6:55 PM
> >>
> >> Closer to our theme of 78s is another word which
> seems to
> >> have popped up
> >> for no reason -- Klezmer.  For the entire 78 era
> and well
> >> thru most of
> >> the LP era, this music was referred to as
> Freileich.  This
> >> was seen in
> >> song titles, album titles, musical descriptions on
> record
> >> labels, liner
> >> notes, and record catalogs. and even in the names
> of
> >> musical groups.
> >> Then suddenly in the mid-80s there was a
> documentary on PBS
> >> about Henry
> >> Sapoznik and several musical groups and this
> mystery word
> >> Klezmer shows
> >> up over and over for the first time.   What was
> wrong with
> >> the word
> >> Freileich  which we already knew???  In the recent
> book
> >> about Jewish LPs
> >> "And We Shall Know Them By The Trail Of Their
> >> Vinyl" they use the term
> >> Freileich and show many records that used that
> term in the
> >> 50s -70s.
> >>
> >> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> >>
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