[78-L] One person's opinions...?!^
Tom
nice_guy_with_an_mba at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 24 16:18:52 PST 2009
So a nation like France can have a colony as they did in Indochina without occupying it? Tell that to the guys at Dienbienphu.
At the time of the American Revolution, the U.S. was occupied by colonists, many of whom were loyal to the British crown and who considered themselves Englishmen. However, the Brits insisted on shooting themselves in the foot over and over again and we know where that led.
--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Alexandre Benoit <pathe90rpm at yahoo.fr> wrote:
From: Alexandre Benoit <pathe90rpm at yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: [78-L] One person's opinions...?!^
To: 78-L at 78online.com
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 2:35 PM
Al (Simmons),
it's new to me that France 'occupied' Indochina.
As far as I know, Indochina was a colony.
Your choice of the word 'occupied' implies that it was illegal - like,
for example the
occupation of the West Banks by Israel.
You may not be aware of the various types of territorial status that are
internationally
acknowledged.
For the United States, we have:
- Federal States
- a Federal District
- Lease Territories (Guantanamo, Diego Garcia)
- Outer Territories (Guam, Wake Island, Marianas...)
- Entrusted Territories (Guam, American Samoa), entrusted to the USA by the
United
Nations, who take them back from the USA and give them to the indigenous
people at any
time they want. It's like a 'Protectorate')
France has even more such internationally acknowledged territorial entities:
- Private Property of the French Republic: Clipperton Island (Just like the
Congo was the
private property of the King of Belgium)
- a Country (French Polynesia) A 'country' is the highest status before
becoming an
independant state)
- Territorial Collectivities (Mayotte, St.Pierre & Miquelon). Almost like a
colony: their
head is a 'Governor', reporting directly to the President
- Collectivities (St.Bartolomew, Wallis & Futuna etc.) These are headed
by an
'Administrateur Supérieur' under the Minister for Interior Affairs.
The only Colonies left, as far as I know, are British:
- the Crwon Colony of Anguilla
- the Colony of Gibraltar
- the Crown Colony of St.Helena and Dependencies
You see, Al, we here in Europe have the tendency to look at things from a legal
point of
view. When you have rights, then they will be respected and even
defended. That's our
concept of 'freedom'.
We Europeans fear that the USA only do things because they have the might and
power
to create facts. Not much different from what Stalin, Hitler and Putin did. The
American (or Russian) concept of freedom seems to be, 'Do as you please, and
if they don't like it, shoot
them'.
This is why Europe now puts so much hope onto Obama.
Alex
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