[78-L] Charles Correll WAS RE: Stephen Foster

[Chris Zwarg]

At 10:21 24.01.2009, you wrote:
>> Or might he have been referring (ironically) to the plausible idea that there were White Southerners who spoke in a similar vein, just as there must have been Blacks who pronounced somewhat differently? You don't see blackface makeup on radio after all, so it is exclusively your *imagination* that lets you see two African-American simpletons, or two White comedians in front of a microphone - you might well imagine them running around naked if your fantasies predispose you to do so! 
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>> Also, it is *extremely* unlikely that the so-called "Minstrel" stage dialect (which BTW varies greatly between different performers) actually represents the actual language of a really-existing person or group of persons, for the simple reason that no stage language ever "holds the mirror up to Nature" but is always stylized and stereotyped in some way; more so in the olden days without any means of amplification. Listening to Ellen Terry's Ophelia, you are hard put to imagine a Medieval Danish maiden actually speaking late-Victorian English like that. What you hear is an ACTRESS giving her interpretation of a theatrical part. To assume otherwise is to try and determine the true physiognomy of the Apostles by studying Leonardo's "Last Supper". You can hear many Londoners that somehow remind you of what Stanley Holloway does in "My Fair Lady", so you recognize that's the dialect Alfred P. Doolittle is supposed to speak, but I'd venture a bet not one actual person exactly us
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>>  Holloway's pronunciation for every single word.
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>> Chris Zwarg 
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>Warren Mitchell, of the TV series "Till Death Us Do Part" (forerunner of 
>"In The Family"), has been criticised for his phoney "stage cockney", 
>which no-one in east London speaks.
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>      Julian Vein

...but probably anybody outside London identifies as "typical", so it serves the satirical purpose - exactly the same effect as with Lauder's bizarre "Scotch" or A&A's "Southern-ish (or what's the PC name of that particular way to murder the King's English?)"

Chris Zwarg