[78-L] You never answered Chris Zwarg's question

Chris Zwarg doctordisc at truesoundtransfers.de
Fri Jan 23 17:25:08 PST 2009


At 01:30 24.01.2009, you wrote:
>The more you write the more apparent it is that your "apology" was nothing of the kind, and your coquettish refusal to even countenance the possibility that there might be some other reason to believe that "nigger president" besides a surplus of sensitivity is extremely tiresome -- more so than the original statement. It is obvious that you did indeed intent to offend; that asterisk admits it.
>
>As for your supposed elucidation, it rings hollow. You can pretend to not understand why electing a black man to the presidency of a country that once would have enslaved him, in a city where within living memory he would not have been permitted to sit at lunch counters, in a house that was BUILT BY SLAVES, but I don't believe it. I don't think anyone, even a German, can be that ignorant.
>
>I'll tell you, your dishonesty is more offensive than your race-baiting.
>
>I don't care what your wishes for our new president are. It is just as offensive to say he was elected because of his skin color as it is to call him a nigger -- less obviously so to some, but not to me. Nothing you have said since then has changed my opinion on this; indeed, every message you send digs that hole deeper. And deeper, and deeper. I was willing to let it go at one point, but you keep hammering away at it. You protesteth too much, I'd say.
>
>Fortunately, mindsets like yours are fading from the world. Most people are looking forward to that future.
>
>--
>Steve.

Thank you for the death threat, spoken like a true American!


> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Chris Zwarg <doctordisc at truesoundtransfers.de>
>> 
>> >  << ... I find nothing ugly or dislikeable about the characters or the events 
>> recounted in this song, nor anything that would induce any negative or 
>> aggressive emotion ... >>
>> >  ?
>> >  Yeah, I understand that. But then, you're the guy who referred to President 
>> Obama the other day as "your n*gger president" so it's fair to say you're not in 
>> a great position from which to speak with convincing moral authority on this 
>> issue.
>> 
>> Why not? I was and I am honest, I called the man what he indisputedly is from 
>> all the photos I have seen, only USED A WRONG WORD TO EXPRESS IT. I have 
>> apologized for that and I do not consider it fair that you delight in repeating 
>> it over and over again. I should have rephrased my yesterday's statement 
>> somthing like "President Obama, now he's Afro-American, I know, and everybody 
>> thinks that's wonderful, but I find it pretty stupid that you have apparently 
>> begun to judge your presidents by their skin colour. I'd like to see him to do 
>> well in Office, and then it's early enough to praise him, isn't it?"
>> 
>> What's "immoral" about that stance even you won't be able to explain to me, Tom. 
>> (I hope you haven't got nephews, or some really awful puns might follow at this 
>> point, the way I have got to know this list...)
>> 
>> Chris Zwarg 
>> 
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