[78-L] playback of broken records WAS Homer and Jethro--33 King sides only

[Mark Hendrix 78L]

A question on the playback of your broken record... do you transfer at a
greatly reduced speed?  Are the two halves taped together in some way?  I
would think that playing a record with any crack at 78 rpm would almost
certainly chip the stylus, and the stylus is a lot more valuable than most
any broken record, I would think.  (And yes I know how rare and valuable
Jolson's "A Plantation Act" Vitaphone disk is, how many pieces it was broken
into, etc., and that's not the kind of disk I'm talking about! :-).

Thanks!

--Mark Hendrix


> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of David Lennick
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:14 PM
> To: 78-L Mail List
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Homer and Jethro--33 King sides only
>
>
> 33 sides it is..I didn't notice the repeat of "Liza". As I
> mentioned the other
> night, the two halves of "Tell a Woman" fitted together nicely and played
> through with minimal clicks and thumps.
>
> dl
>
> Mark Hendrix 78L wrote:
> > Hello, David:
> >
> > I haven't been on the list since it went down, and missed your message,
> > below.  I missed a lot of unpleasantness, too, I see.
> >
> > Anyhow, Homer & Jethro only recorded 33 sides for King, not 34.
>  As I said
> > in an earlier post, the flip side of King 620, "Managua,
> Nicaragua," is not
> > by Homer & Jethro, but by Fairley Holden and His Six Ice Cold
> Papas (the web
> > site you refer to does not show this fact). King 620 has the
> released matrix
> > of "Bill Bailey...", but there is an unissued version, which I
> list below.
> > Finally, King issued the same matrix of "Poor Little Liza Poor
> Girl" twice,
> > on King 773 and King 809.  Count' em off, there'd be a
> tombstone every...
> > whoops, wrong country artist!
> >
> > 10/1946 78 t. KING 571 (US) . Five Minutes More / Rye Whiskey
> > 11/1946 78 t. KING 583 (US) . Boll Weevil / Don't Let Your
> Sweet Love Die
> > 01/1947 78 t. KING 596 (US) . Over The Rainbow / Ground Hog
> > 03/1947 78 t. KING 615 (US) . Cielito Linto / For Sentimental Reasons
> > 05/1947 78 t. KING 620 (US) . Bill Bailey Won't You Come Home
> [by H &J, mx
> > K2410]/ Managua Nicaragua [NOT by H & J]
> > 06/1947 78 t. KING 623 (US) . I'll Close My Eyes / Symphony
> > 10/1947 78 t. KING 659 (US) . Donkey Serenade / Fly Birdie Fly
> > 02/1948 78 t. KING 682 (US) . Three Nights Experience / I Wonder Who's
> > Kissing You Now
> > 03/1948 78 t. KING 695 (US) . Oh You Beautiful Gal / (Don't
> Telephone Don't
> > Telegraph) Tell A Woman
> > 04/1948 78 t. KING 701 (US) . Gotta See My Mama Every Night /
> It Bruised Her
> > Somewhat
> > 07/1948 78 t. KING 721 (US) . Glow Worm / It's Bloody War
> > 09/1948 78 t. KING 731 (US) . Blue Tailed Fly / All Night Long
> > 01/1949 78 t. KING 749 (US) . Goodbye Old Booze / I Feel That Old Age
> > Creeping On
> > 05/1949 78 t. KING 773 (US) . Girl In Police Gazette / Poor
> Little Liza Poor
> > Girl
> > 10/1949 78 t. KING 809 (US) . Always / Poor Little Liza Poor Girl
> > 1951 SP KING / FEDERAL 10004 (US) . Night And Day / When It's
> Long Handle
> > Time In Tennessee
> > 1951 SP KING / FEDERAL 10019 (US) . I'm Glad I Waited For You / Margie
> > mx K2823 Bill Bailey  unissued
> >
> > Discographically beating a dead rainbow,
> >
> > --Mark Hendrix
> >
> > PS: None of this, of course, answers your original question as to why
> > whichever CD company that had access to this material, only reissued 24
> > sides.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> >> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of David Lennick
> >> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:06 PM
> >> To: 78-L Mail List
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] "Over The Rainbow" CORRECTION!
> >>
> >>
> >> 34 King sides here, not counting the King 45 reissue of a
> couple of sides.
> >> http://www.rocky-52.net/chanteursh/homer&jethro.htm
> >> Interesting site. It looks as if it shows release dates, not
> >> recording. And
> >> you'll see it when 78-L is up and running again.
> >>
> >> dl
> >>
> >> Mark Hendrix 78L wrote:
> >>> Hello, David:
> >>>
> >>> I'm simply counting the sides you listed plus the ones beyond
> >> those, listed
> >>> in Ruppli's discography, including the unissued take. All of
> >> the sides you
> >>> listed are in the discography, too. That makes 33.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know about, and didn't count, the sides that seem like
> >> Blue Pages
> >>> material, but would like to know more. ;) Ruppli doesn't have a
> >> title index
> >>> (thanks, thanks a lot), rarely lists accompanying musicians (cf. Cliff
> >>> Bolling's earlier question about Janet Brace), and besides, the
> >> titles David
> >>> Diehl mentioned are not listed under any Hank Penny session
> >> that I can find.
> >>> Mr. Ruppli's discographies are useful, but tend to be rather
> >> slapdash, in my
> >>> opinion.
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure Syd Nathan never reissued "Over the Rainbow" because
> >> he couldn't
> >>> bear paying the copyright royalties.  Too bad; it's a lovely
> >> version.  I've
> >>> only heard it on one of those Hawthorn broadcasts that Andrea Walsh
> >>> uploaded.
> >>>
> >>> As to your question "why a CD [company] would then issue only
> >> 25 and not go
> >>> for 'da woiks,'" you know better perhaps than anyone on this
> >> list what goes
> >>> on in the dark hearts of those who  reissue back catalog on CDs!
> >>>
> >>> --Mark Hendrix
> >>>
> >>> PS, sorry to hear about the shards in the mail!
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> >>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of
> David Lennick
> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:22 PM
> >>>> To: 78-L Mail List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] "Over The Rainbow" CORRECTION!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Re-sending this with the correct sender name! For those who tuned
> >>>> in late,
> >>>> we're talking about Homer & Jethro on King. Caller, you're
> on the air.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark Hendrix 78L wrote:
> >>>>> David Lennick asked:
> >>>>>> Anyone keeping count?
> >>>>> 33 recordings, with one of these unissued.  Is that what you
> >> are asking?
> >>>> That was what I was asking, because we'd had 26 noted previously
> >>>> and I wondered
> >>>> why a CD would then issue only 25 and not go for "da woiks".
> >> Does this 33
> >>>> include the "sitting in" material David Diehl mentioned?
> >>>>
> >>>> davdieh at aol.com wrote:
> >>>>> They also sat in on some sessions, Hank Penny for one. Don't
> >>>> miss The freckle song and Let me play with your poodle.
> >>>>>  David Diehl
> >>>> dl
> >>>> ________________________________________
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