[78-L] Columbia question

[Andrea Walsh]

I am pretty certain that those letters are "AY" although I suppose the
second letter could conceivably be a "V".  But it looks like a "Y" to me.

Andrea

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com> wrote:

> I can't read the little letters on the right side of the label just
> under the gold stripe, but that is the code for the printing date of the
> labels.  Since there was probably only one pressing of this record, that
> would be close to the date.  I've heard of this record before, the
> notation of Gargled by Arthur Fields.  It might have been in a Jim Walsh
> column.
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Columbia question
> From: "Royal Pemberton" <ampex354 at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, January 12, 2009 11:36 pm
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>
> I just looked in my NTN--looks like 1917 or 1918.
>
> On 1/13/09, Andrea Walsh <petquality1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks again David!
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:34 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Feel free..I was just quoting Tim Brooks. There was nothing more
> specific
> >> to
> >> date this, and he didn't provide information on the items from around
> >> March
> >> 1920. My copy of "Note the Notes" is buried somewhere around here..it
> >> might
> >> or
> >> might not put the label and its patent info into a specific time period.
> >>
> >> dl
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrea Walsh wrote:
> >> > Oh, thanks David, this is the kind of info I was hoping for. A
> ballpark
> >> > recording/release date and perhaps some info on the numbering
> question.
> >> >
> >> > Much appreciated, is it ok if I quote you in my post tomorrow?
> >> >
> >> > Andrea
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:48 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Per the Columbia Master Books, the 51500 series was "probably a
> >> >> continuation of
> >> >> the 16000 twelve-inch trials and personals series. Some interesting
> >> tests
> >> >> involving 'transmitters' [sic] took place in this series in March,
> >> >> 1920.
> >> >> Could
> >> >> have been a radio hookup, or possibly an early attempt at electrical
> >> >> recording?
> >> >> [See also the 63000s.]
> >> >>
> >> >> My guess is that this was something recorded for a Columbia
> convention
> >> or
> >> >> sales
> >> >> meeting or other corporate event..definitely not a commercial issue,
> >> >> but
> >> >> they'd
> >> >> have to have pressed a few copies even if only one was wanted. Or
> maybe
> >> all
> >> >> the
> >> >> attendees got a souvenir copy.
> >> >>
> >> >> dl
> >> >>
> >> >> Glenn Longwell wrote:
> >> >>> Very curious. Looks like a special issue but checking Sutton's
> >> Columbia
> >> >> Recording and Release dates booklet there's no information about this
> >> block
> >> >> of matrix numbers. The last 12" ones stopped at 49999 then went to
> >> 98000.
> >> >> In fact the only mention of anything in the 50000's was 59400 series.
> >> I'll
> >> >> be interested to hear it when posted. Any mention of dates on the
> >> >> recording?
> >> >>> Glenn
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Andrea Walsh <petquality1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> From: Andrea Walsh <petquality1 at gmail.com>
> >> >>> Subject: [78-L] Columbia question
> >> >>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> >>> Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 7:44 PM
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hello everyone-
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I need more info on this record: Johnson and Fields: Columbia
> >> Convention
> >> >>> Camouflage
> >> >>>
> >> >>> label photo here:
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/petquality/more%20pet%20pix/columbiaconventioncamolabel.jpg
> >> >>> I am confused about the lack of usual numbers on the label- what
> does
> >> >> this
> >> >>> mean? Was it not a commercial issue? It is a 12" Columbia, numbered
> >> >>> Columbia 51637 & 51639 on respective sides.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm posting the thing tomorrow but would appreciate any additional
> >> >>> info
> >> >>> anyone can provide.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Andrea
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