[78-L] Dubbed contemporary matrix questions (Columbia related).

[Royal Pemberton]

That's one of the things that did make it worth buying for me--they
kept everything mono which, for all too many things back then, was a
dirty word.

On 12/28/08, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I was still glad to get that album when it came out in 1968, and even more
> glad
> that they hadn't done it in fake stereo.
>
> dl
>
> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>> True, that  CL 2830 isn't exactly a sonic masterwork (ahem).  The
>> three titles it has in common with the earlier volume three of THE BIX
>> BEIDERBECKE STORY (GL 519 or CL 846) sound better on the older album.
>>
>> And thanks for the info!
>>
>> On 12/28/08, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> The files (i.e. the Columbia Books) explain WHAT was done but not why.
>>> Quote:
>>>
>>> NOTE:- Matrix 149158 was rejected as such on all three takes [there were
>>> 3],
>>> but each was dubbed onto a new master, numbered 194379 in sequence (so
>>> 149158-1
>>> became 194379-1, 149158-2 became 194379-2, 149158-3 became 194379-3). No
>>> explanation was given.
>>> (big edit)
>>> dl
>>>
>>> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>
>>>> Here's a case in point, that sparked me to ask about this.  I just got
>>>> a copy of the 1968 LP PAUL WHITEMAN AND HIS ORCHESTRA FEATURING BING
>>>> CROSBY [Columbia CL 2830] and the title 'A bunch of old love letters'
>>>> is shown as being recorded 18 October 1929, matrix W 149158-3 but
>>>> 'remastered and released as W 194379-3' on 2047-D.   (Why this was
>>>> done at the time is not explained.)
>>>>
>>>> The sound quality of this track is definitely poorer than any other
>>>> track (much more wow), leading me to believe they used a disc pressed
>>>> from 194379-3 rather than 149158-3 as their source.  I can appreciate
>>>> the use of 194379-3 in the LP for historical accuracy, but I have to
>>>> wonder why was 149158-3 both not used originally for the 78, nor used
>>>> as the dubbing source for the LP.
>>>>
>>>> I would think, if 149158-3 still existed in 1968 in such a condition
>>>> that a good vinyl pressing could have been made from it, they should
>>>> have used it instead, with an explanation of this being the take, but
>>>> not strictly speaking the actual originally issued master, being at
>>>> last made available on this album,  particularly since they did have
>>>> some blurb on the LP regarding use of a 'unique piece of filtering
>>>> equipment developed in the Columbia laboratories' to make the old
>>>> recordings sound better than they ever could have before.
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