[78-L] Dubbed contemporary matrix questions (Columbia related).

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sat Dec 27 20:25:50 PST 2008


I was still glad to get that album when it came out in 1968, and even more glad 
that they hadn't done it in fake stereo.

dl

Royal Pemberton wrote:
> True, that  CL 2830 isn't exactly a sonic masterwork (ahem).  The
> three titles it has in common with the earlier volume three of THE BIX
> BEIDERBECKE STORY (GL 519 or CL 846) sound better on the older album.
> 
> And thanks for the info!
> 
> On 12/28/08, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The files (i.e. the Columbia Books) explain WHAT was done but not why.
>> Quote:
>>
>> NOTE:- Matrix 149158 was rejected as such on all three takes [there were 3],
>> but each was dubbed onto a new master, numbered 194379 in sequence (so
>> 149158-1
>> became 194379-1, 149158-2 became 194379-2, 149158-3 became 194379-3). No
>> explanation was given.
>> (big edit)
>> dl
>>
>> Royal Pemberton wrote:

>>> Here's a case in point, that sparked me to ask about this.  I just got
>>> a copy of the 1968 LP PAUL WHITEMAN AND HIS ORCHESTRA FEATURING BING
>>> CROSBY [Columbia CL 2830] and the title 'A bunch of old love letters'
>>> is shown as being recorded 18 October 1929, matrix W 149158-3 but
>>> 'remastered and released as W 194379-3' on 2047-D.   (Why this was
>>> done at the time is not explained.)
>>>
>>> The sound quality of this track is definitely poorer than any other
>>> track (much more wow), leading me to believe they used a disc pressed
>>> from 194379-3 rather than 149158-3 as their source.  I can appreciate
>>> the use of 194379-3 in the LP for historical accuracy, but I have to
>>> wonder why was 149158-3 both not used originally for the 78, nor used
>>> as the dubbing source for the LP.
>>>
>>> I would think, if 149158-3 still existed in 1968 in such a condition
>>> that a good vinyl pressing could have been made from it, they should
>>> have used it instead, with an explanation of this being the take, but
>>> not strictly speaking the actual originally issued master, being at
>>> last made available on this album,  particularly since they did have
>>> some blurb on the LP regarding use of a 'unique piece of filtering
>>> equipment developed in the Columbia laboratories' to make the old
>>> recordings sound better than they ever could have before.
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