[78-L] fades, dubs etc. was Re: Test...

[David Lennick]

The Nutcracker Suite wouldn't have needed fades, except possibly for parts 1 & 
2 of Waltz of the Flowers..I have never checked that album (don't like his 
performances of Nutcracker, from 1926 through that ludicrously fast one he did 
on Philips in the 60s). His Beethoven 9th is faded, as I recall.

A Koussevitzky disc with a cut-off last note is unusual, since those things 
usually have tons of echo..one side of his Lt Kije Suite (possibly the 
beginning of Side 1) even has a faintly audible comment from Koussy to the 
orchestra before the music starts. If there's a cut-off, look and see if the 
disc is a dub (easily detected by a -R after the take # in the wax). The 
Beecham comment to the orchestra ("Thank you very much" or something like that) 
is at the end of Dance of the Sylphs (Berlioz, Damnation of Faust Incidental 
Music), and US Columbia re-copied that disc in some pressings and increased the 
volume to bring out the comment.

dl

Ted Kneebone wrote:
> Let's see if this one gets thru.  Tried 2 or 3 times and nothing appeared...
> 
> At one point we were discussing the fade out-fade in technique of the 1930s. 
> Stokowski's people did that with his Nutcracker suite on Victor.  I think it 
> was later issued on Camden without the fades.
> 
> We talked about the cutoffs of Toscanini's version of Beethoven's 7th 
> symphony with the NYPSO, and of the Beethoven violin concerto with Heifetz. 
> Reissues corrected those problems, including the long silences at he 
> beginnings of the discs.
> 
> On Koussevitzky's BSO disc of the Berlioz Roman Carnival Overture, the final 
> chord's echo was cut short.
> 
> On the other hand, I have read of Beecham's congratulatory comment ("Good 
> work, men!" or something like that) contained in the leadout gooves of 
> something, maybe by Berlioz.
> 
> Ted Kneebone. 1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401. Phone: 605-226-3344.
>