[78-L] Victor single-sided double-sided record

[Sean Miller]

Well, I can vouch for those existing single sided discs with double sided
issue #s in the wax as well, I've had a few pass through my hands over the
years and all of them 10 inch "patent" label type issues like you found.  It
couldn't have gone on for long, considering how few I've seen and even fewer
that you've seen!  

The one I have (and just looked at again) is Billy Murray's "Rainbow" with
the Haydn Quartet.  Bolig says it was recorded in Sept 1908 and issued on
Victor 5571 (I have a few grand prize pressings of it too) and doubled as
Victor 17233 in 1913.  That would make my late single sided pressing 1913
(!) at least, no?  This is weird.  I originally thought these may have been
pressed in advance of doubles to have stock on hand for sale before the
switch to double faced discs, but this one is five years later!

You've got me wondering now, too!

Mike, I saw you and Leah just as I was leaving the show yesterday, sorry I
didn't tap you on the shoulder and say "hi", but I needed to get out of
there!

Sean

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[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Michael Biel
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 2:36 AM
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Subject: [78-L] Victor single-sided double-sided record

Another record I picked up at the music show is an E+++ copy of
single-sided Victor 4567 by Alan Turner.  Regular black First Prize
label, 5 lines,Aug 25, 1908 final patent with 60 cent price around the
spindle hole and no rear sticker.  That number is up at the 12 o'clock
position as it should be, BUT down at the 6 o'clock position is the
doubled number, 16407B!!!  Were they still pressing single sided records
AFTER they had already started doubling them????  Anybody else got
something like this or is it unusual?  Stamper indicator MM is up at the
single side number, it is handwritten take 2, and the remnants of the
handwritten matrix number is there at 6 o'clock, but obliterated by the
doubled number.

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com

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