[78-L] First real LP

[Michael Biel]

One other thing to remember about "first Lp" issues is the matrix numbers, rather than Catalog numbers. I've never seen a listing of the records in matrix number order, but the lowest issue numbers were not the lowest matrix numbers. All the ones I've seen are at least three digits. The 10 inch Lp and 12-inch XLp numbers are intermixed in one series.
Michael Biel.

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South Pacific was also released simultaneously on Lp and 78. The recording session used tape as an experimental backup, but the tape was never used until a CD in the 1980s. It was quickly pulled when there was outrage that Carefully Taught was incomplete. The replacement used the disc masters, but I am not sure if they used the original discs or an old tape transfer.
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To clarify, I Can Hear It Now WAS mastered on tape. Joel Tall was
credited with the editing in the 78 liner notes.


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  Not sure if I'm getting thjrough to the list this morning. Test 1-2-3.

  And "I Can Hear It Now" went direct to 78 and LP in 1948.

  Milhaud's "Le Boeuf Sur le Toit" was in the can for aboiut 4 years
till
  issued on 78 and lp in 1949.

  dl


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    According to Howard Scott at Columbia Records Bruno Walter's
recording
    of Mendelssohn's  "Concerto In E Minor For Violin And Orchestra Op.
  64"
    (Columbia ML 4001) was the first 12'' LP ever released, and Frank
    Sinatra's "The Voice Of Frank Sinatra" (Columbia CL 6001) the first
    10''. Both featured reissues of recordings previously released on
  78's.
    At the time of release (1st of July 1948) Columbia had about a
hundred
    different titles ready for release, so being "the first" albums
these
    two obviously were first only due to their numbering.

    But what was the first LP release of "original" material, produced
for
    LP, and previously not released on 78?
    The topic was discussed here in 2004, without conclusion:

    Steve Abrams wrote about US Columbia:

    "I am not aware of any recordings mastered from tape in 1948. There
  may
    have been some experiments with tape in '48 but tape was not
    introduced until the spring of 1949, for back-ups."

    And David Lennick wrote:

    "I believe that all of US Columbia's first lps were mastered direct
to
    disc from
    the original 16" lacquers, which contained the original 4-minute
takes
    recorded
    for 78 issue."

    Perhaps it wasn't Columbia at all who first released an "original
    recording" on LP?

    Kristjan



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