[78-L] Triangle 11290

Malcolm malcolm at 78data.com.invalid
Thu Aug 31 13:30:20 PDT 2017

Okay, Mark, you have been vindicated!
On checking Walter C. Allen's Paramount ledgers I have found your issue 
but on Puritan 11290. Your Triangle 11290 also fits in here because both 
originated at BD&M (Bridgeport Die & Machine). There is no connection 
with the Paramount L- matrix series. There were no concurrent Paramount 
or other issues for mxes LL 103-2 or LL 116-2.
"Hugh Donovan" shows up on a number of the LL- issued.
The Anita Miller side shows up as "Lullaby from 'Erminie' " not as "Ermine."
I knew I'd seem this LL- matrix series in my travels! The first of only 
eight LL- matrix issues shows up on Pur 11221 and ends up with Pur 
11325. Highest LL- number is LL 210-2; lowest is LL 103-2. I have no 
explanation where the other ~200 LL's can be found, where they were 
recorded, or what LL stands for, if anything.
So there you go!
Thanks for the chase. It was fun.


On 8/30/2017 6:58 PM, Mark Bardenwerper wrote:
> On 8/30/2017 6:49 PM, Mark Bardenwerper wrote:
>> On 8/30/2017 11:11 AM, David Lewis wrote:
>>> Though it has a big bite taken out of it, I picked up Triangle 11290 for discographical purposes. To wit:
>>> Triangle 11290
>>> A: LL 103-2 Anita Miller: Lullaby from "Ermine"
>>> B: LL 116-2 Hugh Donovan: Ben Bolt
>>> This would likely correspond with Puritan 11290 and Paramount 20290 which would indicate a release late in 1923/early 1924. However, I have not before encountered the "LL" prefix in a Paramount family recording before (it's not "L," as in the Wisconsin Chair-made matrices from 1929 forward.) Anyone know where these sides originated, and a date of recording?
>> I find LL 116 a on National Music Lovers 1005 with a different flip,
>> covered also as Puritan 11290 dated 4/?/21
>> Gladys Rice at NML 1002, different coupling, also on Puritan 11290, same
>> date.
>> http://www.78discography.com/NML.htm
> Astute Malcom Rockwell has questioned my Puritan assertion with a set of
> label scans. That makes me and the information I used in error.
> http://www.78discography.com/Puritan11000.htm
> where, actually, 11290 doe not even occur. That also puts the cross
> reference in the NML discography in error.

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