[78-L] A question about Vitaphone discs

Ron roscoer at verizon.net.invalid
Sun Nov 20 12:26:49 PST 2016


I have a Vitaphone 16" disc from a Vitaphone short with Gigli and another
singer whose name escapes me at the time.  It's single sided shellac, 33.3
rpm, standard groove, and had been played 16 times!
The audio quality as far as frequency response goes seems fine to me.
Ron Roscoe

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Could the various elements have been recorded at 78 and then dubbed? Every
sync disc I've ever seen (Vitaphone, MGM, United Artists) has been 33. Some
have been 12", like an Oswald the Rabbit soundtrack.

dl


On 11/20/2016 1:16 PM, Mark Bardenwerper wrote:
> On 11/20/2016 10:20 AM, Doug Pomeroy wrote:
>> I realize the wikipedia entry does say the speed of the Vitaphone 16"
>> discs
>> was 33.3, but I  believe this is a mistake.  The audio quality a that 
>> speed would be unacceptable. I have transferred many Vitaphone 
>> stampers and they are all 78s.
>>
>> *Doug Pomeroy*
>> Audio Restoration and Mastering Services
>> 193 Baltic St
>> Brooklyn, NY  11201-6173
>> (718) 855-2650
>> audiofixer at verizon.net <mailto:audiofixer at verizon.net>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Recording time was first seen as a significant factor in movie sound 
>>> recording. Vitaphone began distributing 16 inch, 33 rpm records in 
>>> 1929 or 30, with standard groove width.
>>>
>>> There were several advantages to vertical cut. Spacing could be 
>>> standardized and equalization was not as big a factor. Edisons were 
>>> gear driven and it was the lack of portability and the stranding of 
>>> the technology that ended Edison. Vertical records were still used 
>>> in radio transcription for a long time, where playing time remained
important.
>>> Smaller grooves came first to transcription, I think. The big change 
>>> in groove width had to wait for the end of WW2 for the general 
>>> public, though RCA introduced a short-lived special line of players 
>>> and records in late '31.
>>>
>>> Someone will chime in with better details I am sure. How accurate is 
>>> this info?
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LP_record
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr.
>>>
> Hi Doug,
>
> I hope you don't mind me posting this to the list. Perhaps it was a
mistake.
>
> Thanks!
>

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