[78-L] Awful singers

[Novak Paul M.]

45rpm/LP world:
Marianne Faithfull's original version of Sister Morphine rivals that of the Stones; and her voice suits the lyrics. Not awful to my ears, but bloody wonderful. 

78rpm world:
Keeping erratic time is not necessarily bad: Texas Alexander just sang and Lonnie Johnson did his best to try to keep up

Paul Novak



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Except that Marianne Faithfull started her singing career in folk clubs
in London in 1964, recorded her first single the same year and became
Jagger's girl friend in 1966 and continued her career with, until now,
21 albums.
As for the voice, her singing style was typical for the mid 60's,
especially in France, but also featured in the UK by singers like
Shelagh McDonald, Vashti Bunyan and others.
Kristjan

On 2016-06-05 19:35, Royal Pemberton wrote:
> I heard one today that would fit that 'chippie' description although
> well past the 78 period except in a few countries (and she never made
> any herself)--one Marianne Faithfull who was Mick Jagger's GF about 50
> years ago....wretchedly shaky voice. On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:24 PM,
> Malcolm <malcolm at 78data.com.invalid> wrote:
>> One explanation of these awful female singers with one or two records
>> to their credit is the "chippie" theory of music production. A
>> chippie (we used to call 'em groupies) was a band follower usually
>> trying to get laid by the star, and usually working her way through
>> the band to get there. If the star saw something he really liked he'd
>> entice her with letting her "sing" a number with the band. Worked
>> every time. Some things never change. Mal ******* On 6/5/2016 2:57
>> AM, David Lennick wrote:
>>> Lillian is definitely one I had in mind. Others from my notes:
>>> HELENA MANLEY..sounds like Butterfly McQueen channeling Florence Foster
>> Jenkins. Various on Champion, Decca and Vocalion.
>>> DAISY MARTIN..equally bad. Off-key shrieks.OKeh 8008B WON'T SOMEONE
>> HELP ME FIND MY LOVIN' MAN? has an unbelievable last note
>>> Gennett 6090B BLUE AND ALL BY MYSELF 12664-A (2:26)HATTIE GARLAND as
>> VIOLET JACKSON (bloody horrible)
>>> Bluebird B6042B I AIN'T GOT NOBODY 91436-1 (2:56)OLIVER BROWN FROM NEW
>> ORLEANS (Yodels! or tries to)
>>> Decca 7080A STEADY GRINDING BLUES 9346-A (3:07)DOROTHY BAKER
>> unintelligible and can't count.
>>> For that matter, Bessie Smith's "Hot Time in the Old Town Tonight" is a
>> disaster..she's fine but the band has never played the tune before,
>> obviously, and blows clam after clam and false entries are not unknown.,
>>> Ladies got the blues and so do we. dl
>>>> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 03:22:51 -0400 To:
>>>> 78-l at klickitat.78online.com From: djwein at earthlink.net.invalid
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Leona Anderson, et al Yry Lillian Delk
>>>> Christian (who even recorded with Louis Armstrong) for horrendous
>>>> 1920s blues vocalizing. Dave Weiner On 6/4/16, 7:54 PM, "David
>>>> Lennick" <
>> 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>>> on behalf of dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> By the way, there are an awful lot of 20s blues singers who
>>>>> managed to make one or two records (sometimes more) without having
>>>>> the slightest ability to sing on key or to count. I'm digitizing a
>>>>> large collection
>> and
>>>>> sometimes I wonder why I spend each lonely night..torturing
>>>>> myself. (Okay, I get paid to do it.) And instrumentally yours,
>>>>> there's Harry Snodgrass, the King of the Ivories. dl
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