[78-L] Lead-in groove mystery

[Taylor Bowie]

Are these 1930 records the earliest examples of lead-in grooves?  I'm not 
much interested in the technical end of this stuff but I seem to remember 
seeing one or two pre-1930 examples...anyone know for sure?


Taylor





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid>
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Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Lead-in groove mystery


>
> No, these occur on original VT and Tater Head pressings. I've had a number 
> of them.
>
> dl
>
> On 8/30/2014 10:32 PM, jsalerno at earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps this is a later pressing and the lead in groove was added? Seems
>> hard to explain why the potato head label is still present.
>>
>> I don't have a book that details the history of Columbia labels.
>>
>> Joe Salerno
>>
>> On 8/30/2014 9:18 PM, Gary Herzenstiel wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone.
>>>
>>> I just picked up a Columbia Whiteman "potato head", numbered 2297-D with 
>>> matricies 150788-3 and 150789-3, both recorded on 10 September 1930. 
>>> The label looks like this one:
>>>
>>> http://78rpmrecord.com/labelshow.cfm?whichLabel=1143
>>>
>>> Oddly, it has a lead-in groove.  It appears to be little wider than the 
>>> normal audio groove, spirals in at a normal rate and starts from the 
>>> edge of the record.  This seems very early for a lead-in groove.  Has 
>>> anyone done a survey of lead-in and run-out grooves?  I was always told 
>>> that they were developed for the jukebox industry but this certainly 
>>> casts doubt.
>>>
>>> Thanks.    Gary H
>>> 78rpmrecord.com
>>> (more label scans than anyone should have - adds your scans!)
>>>
>>>
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