[78-L] Gone With The Dawn - Jolly Coburn and his Orchestra, with vocal refrain by Bill Hawley

Jeremy Passarelli jeremy.pass.101 at aol.com.invalid
Sun Jun 22 17:42:01 PDT 2014


Anyone know any info on the vocalist for Jolly Coburn and his Orchestra, Bill Hawley? There seems to be little to no information on him.


On Jun 20, 2014, at 3:00 PM, 78-l-request at klickitat.78online.com wrote:

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> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid>
> Subject: [78-L] Delta Rhythm Boys
> Date: June 19, 2014 at 3:01:51 PM EDT
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> Anyone have the matrix number for the Delta Rhythm Boys' "Dry Bones", RCA Victor 20-2460? Oddly enough I can find the mx for the flip side, September song (D7VB-544) but not this side.
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> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Delta Rhythm Boys
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> Never mind kiddies, but hear the word of the Lord..Tom Lord, that is. This one is listed. D7VB 523.
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> On 6/19/2014 3:01 PM, David Lennick wrote:
>> Anyone have the matrix number for the Delta Rhythm Boys' "Dry Bones", RCA
>> Victor 20-2460? Oddly enough I can find the mx for the flip side, September
>> song (D7VB-544) but not this side.
>> 
>> dl
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] first Rock And Roll record
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> I've always found this one hilarious...
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> http://www.iheart.com/artist/Miss-Rhapsody-46831/songs/The-Night-Before-Judgement-Day-2961702/
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>> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 07:36:58 -0500
>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> From: rocambujazz at yahoo.com.invalid
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] first Rock And Roll record
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>> Well that one did not as far as I know (David would know better) but I think "Rock It For Me" (Hot Lips Page on Victor or Chick Webb w Ella on Decca in 1938) would have made a great one for a 50's rock and roll era revival, don't you think? 
>> Regards, and can we think of other songs that should have been revived in the 50's that were not,even if rock is not on the title ... Yves 
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>> Sent from Garminfone by T-Mobile.
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>> John Wright <vintage at jabw.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
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>>> OK David, a rock and roll thread probably for the nth time here. We all know
>>> here that the Boswell Sisters recorded Rock and Roll on Oct 4, 1934   :o))
>>> Being the Richard Whiting/Sidney Clare song that they were, apparently,
>>> offered when Shirley Temple didn't use it.
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>>> Question: did this song ever get a revival after the pop rock'n'roll genre
>>> took hold?
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>>> John
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> From: Rodger Holtin <rjh334578 at gmail.com.invalid>
> Subject: [78-L] Drunkard Song - Rudy Vallee
> Date: June 19, 2014 at 8:23:48 PM EDT
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> OK, does anybody KNOW the real story about why/how Rudy broke into such a
> fit of infectious laughter on this famous record?  He was such a story
> teller, surely he had to have told that story to somebody!
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> Rodger
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> For best results use Victor Needles
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> From: "Stewart, Joseph R" <RandyStewart at MissouriState.edu.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] OT Pronunciation question^
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> Ray Kilcoyne wrote: 
> "Does any know for sure how to pronounce the last name of singer, Dana Valery?
> Accent on the first or second syllable?"
> 
> I've always heard it as second syllable accented--"vah-LEHR-ee". (And first name as "DAH-nah" or "Donna", rather than "day-nah")
> There's a YouTube video of a 1974 (syndicated) episode of "What's My Line", where Dana Valery is one of the celebrity panelists.  
> Announcer Chet Gould clearly pronounces her name in the intro as "Donna vah-LEHR-ee".
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gr8kTRKb5I
> "What's My Line 1974 - Episode 250-2"
> 
> Randy Stewart
> Battlefield MO
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> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Drunkard Song - Rudy Vallee
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> He wrote in My Time is Your Time that he was doing 4 or 5 shows a day (at the Paramount), the band was just exhausted, the song was silly and the trumpet player "made a face" and he just lost it. He did another take where he's suppressing a laugh, and that was issued first, but the breakup version wouldn't be held back. Different flip on each disc (I forget which has Lost in a Fog, but I suspect it's on the non-breakup and thus rarer).
> 
> dl
> 
> On 6/19/2014 8:23 PM, Rodger Holtin wrote:
>> 
>> OK, does anybody KNOW the real story about why/how Rudy broke into such a
>> fit of infectious laughter on this famous record?  He was such a story
>> teller, surely he had to have told that story to somebody!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rodger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For best results use Victor Needles
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> From: Ray Kilcoyne <kil at roadrunner.com.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] OT Pronunciation question^
> Date: June 19, 2014 at 10:09:03 PM EDT
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> Thanks Randy,
> Pretty neat research.  I did check YouTube myself, but didn't find that one.
> RayK
>> 
> From: Stewart, Joseph R
> I've always heard it as second syllable accented--"vah-LEHR-ee". (And first name as "DAH-nah" or "Donna", rather than "day-nah")
> There's a YouTube video of a 1974 (syndicated) episode of "What's My Line", where Dana Valery is one of the celebrity panelists.
> Announcer Chet Gould clearly pronounces her name in the intro as "Donna vah-LEHR-ee".
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gr8kTRKb5I
> "What's My Line 1974 - Episode 250-2"
>>> 
> Ray Kilcoyne wrote:
> "Does any know for sure how to pronounce the last name of singer, Dana Valery?
> Accent on the first or second syllable?"
> 
> 
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> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid>
> Subject: [78-L] RIP Gerry Goffin
> Date: June 19, 2014 at 10:51:38 PM EDT
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> Probably some songs on 78s in south America..
> 
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/gerry-goffin-carole-king-s-writing-partner-and-ex-husband-dead-at-75-1.2681399
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> dl
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> From: Rodger Holtin <rjh334578 at gmail.com.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Drunkard Song - Rudy Vallee
> Date: June 19, 2014 at 10:56:24 PM EDT
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> I'll take that as definitive, thank you.
> Yes, Fog is the Flip of the "straight" version on 24721 - perhaps the only
> "rarer" record I own.  Interesting that the break up is -1 and the
> "straight" one is -2 and it isn't really so straight.  He giggles in the
> same place and really burlesques the song in several places - sounds more
> drunk on this that the break up take.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> He wrote in My Time is Your Time that he was doing 4 or 5 shows a day (at
> the Paramount), the band was just exhausted, the song was silly and the
> trumpet player "made a face" and he just lost it. He did another take where
> he's suppressing a laugh, and that was issued first, but the breakup version
> wouldn't be held back. Different flip on each disc (I forget which has Lost
> in a Fog, but I suspect it's on the non-breakup and thus rarer).
> 
> dl
> 
> On 6/19/2014 8:23 PM, Rodger Holtin wrote:
>> 
>> OK, does anybody KNOW the real story about why/how Rudy broke into 
>> such a fit of infectious laughter on this famous record?  He was such 
>> a story teller, surely he had to have told that story to somebody!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rodger
>> 
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>> 
>> For best results use Victor Needles
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> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Drunkard Song - Rudy Vallee
> Date: June 19, 2014 at 11:02:52 PM EDT
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> 
> He's sending up The Tattooed Lady as well. By the way, the Canadian issue of the breakup didn't have the "Dear Rudy" label, just a regular batwing label. And no composer credit, no "Tavern in the Town" subtitle, so you had to know you which version was which. Both were issued in Canada.
> 
> I meant to put a question mark next to the reference to the Paramount Theatre. Not certain where he was playing, but they were all pretty loopy, maybe into the ohbejoyful, the song was first person feminine, and it just struck him as ludicrous.
> 
> dl
> 
> On 6/19/2014 10:56 PM, Rodger Holtin wrote:
>> 
>> I'll take that as definitive, thank you.
>> Yes, Fog is the Flip of the "straight" version on 24721 - perhaps the only
>> "rarer" record I own.  Interesting that the break up is -1 and the
>> "straight" one is -2 and it isn't really so straight.  He giggles in the
>> same place and really burlesques the song in several places - sounds more
>> drunk on this that the break up take.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of David Lennick
>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:01 PM
>> To: 78-L Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Drunkard Song - Rudy Vallee
>> 
>> 
>> He wrote in My Time is Your Time that he was doing 4 or 5 shows a day (at
>> the Paramount), the band was just exhausted, the song was silly and the
>> trumpet player "made a face" and he just lost it. He did another take where
>> he's suppressing a laugh, and that was issued first, but the breakup version
>> wouldn't be held back. Different flip on each disc (I forget which has Lost
>> in a Fog, but I suspect it's on the non-breakup and thus rarer).
>> 
>> dl
>> 
>> On 6/19/2014 8:23 PM, Rodger Holtin wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, does anybody KNOW the real story about why/how Rudy broke into
>>> such a fit of infectious laughter on this famous record?  He was such
>>> a story teller, surely he had to have told that story to somebody!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rodger
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For best results use Victor Needles
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> From: Ray Kilcoyne <kil at roadrunner.com.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] RIP Gerry Goffin
> Date: June 19, 2014 at 11:47:04 PM EDT
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> 
> Probably right....
> Here's a 78 of WILL YOU LOVE ME TOMORROW on the Ridge label, from ???
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZspzJT1Q2fM
> I also found mention of Carole King's original demo of GO AWAY LITTLE GIRL on 78.
> RayK
>> 
> From: David Lennick
> Probably some songs on 78s in south America..
> 
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/gerry-goffin-carole-king-s-writing-partner-and-ex-husband-dead-at-75-1.2681399
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