[78-L] Most music area on a 78.

[David Lennick]

There's a Beethoven Quartet on HMV where sides run over 6 minutes, but the 
grooves are tightly pitched. For area used, check out Stokowski's second 
recording of the Toccata and Fugue..side 2 has an unusually small label.

dl

On 6/8/2014 4:44 PM, DAVID BURNHAM wrote:
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> I just checked quickly and can't find vol. 2 of the Haydn Quartets.  I easily found vol. 1 and vols. 3, 4 and 5.
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> I always thought John Cage's "4:31" was determined because that was the theoretical limit of an un modulated 12 inch 78 side.
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> db
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> On Sunday, June 8, 2014 4:17:53 PM, Mike Harkin<xxm.harkin at yahoo.com.invalid>  wrote:
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>> Yes, the Testament CD sez 12:50.  Years ago, before selling my 78s and vinyl, I put as much of my choicest stuff onto cassette.  Ordinarily 7 30cm 78s fit nicely on a
>> 60 min cassette, but I couldn't get that set to fit for love
>> nor money.  Ended up putting Vol. 2-7 on 90min ones, filled up with the Mozart 'Haydn' quartets by various
>> ensembles.  Don't know how they did it without affecting
>> playback pitch somehow adversely, but there it is....
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>> M in P
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Dave Burnham<burnhamd at rogers.com.invalid>
>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2014 9:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Most music area on a 78.
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>> Well that is also very interesting. Are you saying there is almost 13 minutes of music on two 78 sides?  I didn't think that was possible even with unmodulated grooves. I have that set at home - must check that out.
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>> But I wasn't talking about the length of the recording, just the area of the
>> disc taken up by the recording, although, of course, the two characteristics are correlated.
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>> db
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jun 8, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Mike Harkin<xxm.harkin at yahoo.com.invalid>  wrote:
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>>> HMV DB1927 in Vol. 2 of the Haydn Quartet Society con-
>>> tains op.33/6  on one record, with a total playing time of
>>> just under 13 mins.  Don't remember if it had smaller than
>>> usual labels, tho' I can recall seeing a few that did....  Elgar
>>> comes to mind, possibly one of the symphonies.
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>>>
>>> Mike in Plovdiv
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>>> ________________________________
>>> From: DAVID BURNHAM<burnhamd at rogers.com.invalid>
>>> To: 78- L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2014 8:28 PM
>>> Subject: [78-L] Most music area on a 78.
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>>> I don't think this will be of any interest to Guiness but I think I've found a 78 which must be pretty close to being the record with the most music crammed on to it;  it is side three of Schubert's 5th symphony on English Decca conducted, (I think),
>> by Jascha Horenstein.  This is the second half of the second movement and the record is a standard orange labled Decca with a normal sized small label.  The music comes to within 1/16th of an inch of the label all around.  A lot of players must have had a hard time playing this disc without hitting the end stop of the arm's travel.  My copy is in a manual sequence but the set must have been issued in a drop sequence as well and that would have been a challenge for a record changer.
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>>> I don't think everybody finds this kind of stuff interesting but I do.
>>>
>>> db