[78-L] Escott, was Arnold Covey

eugene hayhoe jazzme48912 at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 7 03:08:09 PST 2014


Electric guitarist Jimmy Lewis has something to say on the topic:


http://www.freshsoundrecords.com/the_complete_recordings_1947-1955-cd-2063.html


I've always found the 'it can't be rock and roll yet if they're not white' 'argument' bleakly amusing. As Johnny Otis said 'can't they give black people credit for anything?'


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On Fri, 3/7/14, Erwin Kluwer <ekluwer at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [78-L] Escott, was Arnold Covey
 To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
 Date: Friday, March 7, 2014, 3:30 AM
 
 cause it drags and doesn't rock....
 
 Even Bill Monroe in 1946 or Flatf & Scruggs in 1948/9
 had way more forward
 momentum, looseness and excitement (a few of the nescessary
 ingredients of
 true rock ' roll)  then this heavy, dull stuff.
 
 On Friday, March 7, 2014, Joe Scott <joenscott at mail.com>
 wrote:
 
 > Let's take "Rock The Joint" by Jimmy Preston. In your
 opinion why is it
 > not true rock and roll?
 >
 > Joseph Scott
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: Erwin Kluwer
 > Sent: 03/06/14 01:20 PM
 > To: 78-L Mail List
 > Subject: Re: [78-L] Escott, was Arnold Covey
 >
 > What a nonsense to indentify some jump blues records as
 true Rock ' n Roll
 > and dismiss Sun records seminal place in creating the
 genre ... Talking
 > about ignorance!!!! On Thursday, March 6, 2014, Joe
 Scott <
 > joenscott at mail.com
 <javascript:;>> wrote: > I wish Escott were
 enough of
 > an expert on early rock and roll and/or > forthright
 enough that the
 > existence of 1949 recordings such as "Rock The >
 Joint"* by Jimmy Preston,
 > "Hole In The Wall" by Albennie Jones, "Rock That >
 Boogie" by Jimmy Smith,
 > and "Boogie At Midnight" by Roy Brown, which all >
 sound similar to each
 > other because they were all part of a new fad sound,
 > before Sun existed,
 > a sound that Billboard was calling "rockers" before Sun
 > existed, would
 > prevent him from coauthoring a book called _Good
 Rockin' > Tonight: Sun
 > Records And The Birth Of Rock 'N' Roll_. The idea that
 Sun > Records had
 > something to do with the birth of rock and roll sells
 great and > is
 > completely false. > > Joseph Scott > > *The
 first record Escott ever own
 >  ed was the London LP _Rock The Joint_ by >
 Bill Haley. > ----- Original
 > Message ----- > From: warren moorman > Sent:
 03/06/14 09:50 AM > To: 78-L
 > Mail List > Subject: Re: [78-L] Lester Young - or
 Arnold Corey? > > [...]
 > Colin Escott, who's authoritative knowledge of country
 and early >
 > rock&roll is unquestionable, was associated with
 the most incredible liner
 > > note howler I've ever known, not once but twice.
 In his first book on Sun
 > > records, he printed an extremely unlikely
 explanation about Eddie Hill's
 > > record "The Hot Guitar", then many years later, a
 Mercury box set he >
 > produced carried a different but equally preposterous
 explanation. Yet he's
 > > undoubtedly expert[....] >
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