[78-L] alternate take puzzle -- Lyric 4207

[Doug Caldwell]

Glenn – thanks, that’s why I assumed “Lateral” was on the label. It makes
sense that it was announced Jan 1920. I’m sure it was recorded after Sept
15, 1919 – possibly into October.

David (Deihl) -- I’m not sure what is meant by “replacement.” Are you
thinking there is a connection between the mx of Lyric 4207 (mx 1014-2) and
the group of discs from 1922 you posted? 

BTW, most reference books list the saxophonist here as Rudy Wiedoeft, but
it’s Bennie Krueger. Wiedoeft is the sax on many Yerkes-organized sides up
to about late summer 1919—after that its Krueger.


-----Original Message-----
From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Longwell
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:58 PM
To: 78-L Mail List
Subject: Re: [78-L] alternate take puzzle -- Lyric 4207

I take that back.  Both label variations are shown there of the "lateral"
type.  Duh!

Glenn


________________________________
 From: Glenn Longwell <glongwell at snet.net>
To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] alternate take puzzle --  Lyric 4207
 

Regarding the "Lateral" designation.  The prior versions of Lyric were
vertical as Ron pointed out. This record was announced to the press on
January 1920 and was in the first round of discs in the 4200 series to be
announced so I'm sure they wanted to make a clear distinction between the
new lateral and the old vertical discs of the past.  Most Lyrics in these
initial offerings in each series (5200, 6200, etc.) had Lateral on the disc
but later dropped it.

If interested at the bottom of this page are some label variations as well
as sleeve variations.  I never posted a non Lateral variation but should
when I update this whole site.  Also shown is the Lyric phonograph, which
was produced by Lyraphone in their first incarnation prior to selling any
discs.  It was a failure.  They re-emerged selling records only.

http://majesticrecord.com/labelsl.htm


Glenn


www.majesticrecord.com


________________________________
From: Doug Caldwell <rw78stuff at comcast.net>
To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:50 PM
Subject: [78-L] alternate take puzzle --  Lyric 4207


Just got a copy of Lyric 4207 "At the High Brown Babies' Ball" by Yerkes
Novelty Five, probably recorded c. October 1919 --  and the matrix seems
odd. Every reference I've seen re this disc indicates mx 12015 (The flip
side, "Missouri Blues," by the same group, has mx 12014.) This disc plainly
shows mx 1014-2 for "High Brown Babies'." And it is clearly a different take
than the 12015 I've heard. Also, the label has the word "Lateral," which
later Lyrics I have do not.



Why the unusual mx?? (Does 1014 fit with some known series from another
label or recording lab? Was there an earlier mx series at Lyric? Were
mistakes made in engraving matrices ?)



Any ideas ?

_______________________________________________
78-L mailing list
78-L at klickitat.78online.com
http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
_______________________________________________
78-L mailing list
78-L at klickitat.78online.com
http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
_______________________________________________
78-L mailing list
78-L at klickitat.78online.com
http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l