[78-L] Transcription info sought

[Ron Roscoe]

Another way to protect the labels is to use one of those large suction cups they use to hold large panes of glass.  They come in various sizes, and if you can find one that just exceeds the diameter of the label, so the edges sit on the "land" in the inner diameter, it should work fine.

Ron R

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I bought some 16" lacquers on eBay a few years ago, and they had the white film.  Someone on one of these newschat groups suggested using paint thinner to clean off the white film, and it worked like a charm.  The discs were the first Bing Crosby show he did for Philco in ~Dec 1946, when he was experimenting with prerecording his shows before Jack Mullin got him started with taping.  The finished [cleaned] discs were virgin, and very quiet.

I had trouble finding something to actually do the cleaning in!  I ended up with one of those round black plastic pans that you put under a hot water tank in case it leaks.  Just gently flood the discs with paint thinner, then drain them, then wash the paint thinner off with a little mild soap and tepid water, and let them dry.

I believe the white film is some kind of waxy binder that exudes from certain lacquers over time.
If you're worried about the labels, just use a sopping piece of cloth to wipe on the paint thinner, being careful not to touch the label.

Ron R

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From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of RUSSELL BARNES
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Thanks Ron,

I'm advised that Windex is not available in the UK (perhaps Windex is an American product).  I'm searching to establish if there is a UK equivalent.

Russ Barnes
 

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 From: Ron L'Herault <lherault at verizon.net>
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Lacquers with a white film can be cleaned with Windex.  And amazingly enough
the records I had that looked crazed tracked OK.  They may be a bit noisy
but you should be able to play them if you have a turntable that handles
that size record and a not too light tracking force.

Ron L

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Ron,
They appear to have been stored in the original card sleeves of the BBC.   
It looks as though they have been stored in a shed or outhouse.   They have
'cloudy' area across the grooves of the cellulose.   Some 'crazy paving'
too.   Some have flakes of cellulose coming away from the outside edge.

I haven't played them yet.  It requires some thought.

Russ B


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Why do you say playability is in doubt?  I'd love to hear the Jolson
material, BTW.

Ron L

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Hello all,

This week (here in the UK) I purchased - in a public auction house - twelve
Radio transcription discs  17, 16 and 12 inch dia - all said to have
originated in the BBC, record library London.  

They appear to be mainly direct cut to acetate and are in the region
of sixty years old.   They've been in store for a considerable time and
their playability is much in doubt.

One set of 17 inch (a 33 revs) is a programme - dated March 1945 - called
'Jazz is where you find it'.    Could this be a USA programme copied by the
BBC.

Two 16 inch discs with a plain blue label has the letters W.O.R across it
and dated 10th January, 1946.  It has the programme Salute to Jolson  - on
four sides.  These disc I assume are American.

Any one any ideas please ?.

Russ Barnes
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