[78-L] Mystery Turntable

[Ron L'Herault]

The turntable on those is a friction fit.  They usually just lift off but
sometimes you have to have someone hold onto and lift the tt while someone
else raps the slightly raised center spindle with a hammer.  An interleaving
piece of hardwood will protect the metal of the spindle.   Some of the
cabinets have a hinged top which only requires that the crank be removed
(either by turning ccw, or pulling straight out) and releasing a latch.
Other cabinet tops are screwed down from the top with 4-6 screws along the
outer edges.  Once in a while you find a cabinet that has to be accessed by
removing the bottom so that the motor can be dropped out once its mounting
bolts are removed.  And speaking of bottoms, its always a good idea to put
four new rubber tack bumper feet on it.   This keeps the machine from
marring surfaces on which it is placed and keeps the machine from sliding
around when you crank it.  A side benefit is that the machine does not
transmit motor noise to whatever it is sitting on.

Ron L



-----Original Message-----
From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Mark Bardenwerper
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:58 PM
To: 78-L Mail List
Subject: Re: [78-L] Mystery Turntable

On 11/15/2013 8:24 PM, David Lewis wrote:
> My friend Dave (not on this list) wrote me:
>
> I have recently inherited an old phonograph my grandma had - I'd 
> played it all the time as a child in the 1960s-70s, and periodically 
> ever since - it works fine (though a little slower to spool up to 
> speed now than I recall). I'd talked about it with my grandma in the 
> past couple years, as she'd tried to get me to take it home for ages. 
> She referred to it as a victor I think, so I always assumed that's 
> what it was. But it has no listening-dog, no stamps on the arm or 
> decals on the 13.5" bi-metal horn with (8.5"mouth), so if it is a 
> Victor it's probably very early. Also she has a ton of old Victor 
> releases (#42 is the earliest), and others called the devices 
> Victrola's so it may have been a generic term. The 9.75" square base 
> handles 10" records, and appears to be stained oak, with dove-tailed 
> corner joints. Green felt table, side crank. No visible controls other 
> than crank and brake. No studs, nothing on the top of the box (Steve 
> Jobs would have LOVED this thing!). I've inc
 lu
>   ded a some photos below.
> It looks a little like an Oxford, but those were late enough to have 
> the dog or at least Victor stamped in the metal parts. I've taken the 
> horn and arm completely apart, and there's no makers mark at all... my 
> grandparents and their parents were pretty cheap (good Germans!), so 
> it could have been some kind of early knock off. But here's the thing: 
> a number of her records are german marches, race music, etc, and many 
> pre-1910 Victor and Columbia titles in the pile of records. That 
> suggests it belonged to my great-grandpa/grandma (somewhat unlikely, 
> though the content would have fit my German-speaking 2nd generation 
> great-grandpa), or my grandma's aunt or grandma (much more likely - 
> they were into music, had fun, but were also German, still their 
> tastes evolved considerably over the collection). My grandma was born 
> in 1920, and got married in 1938 so it may have been a present or 
> inheritance from her aunt. To my understanding she was a little better 
> off in the Depression, so
 mo
>   re likely to have had the means to buy an early phonograph and keep it
stocked with music.
> I have put up his pictures of this machine at: 
> https://app.box.com/s/ahh6r1wuzi6wi7t785cf
> Can anyone help?
> Uncle Dave Lewis
> uncledavelewis at hotmail.com 		 	   		
> _______________________________________________
>
Is it possible to get the platter off, or any farther apart without undue
damage? There might be internal marks.

--
Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr.

Technology...thoughtfully, responsibly.

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