[78-L] Mystery Turntable

Ron L'Herault lherault at verizon.net
Fri Nov 15 20:53:57 PST 2013


I'm pretty sure it is a Columbia-made machine, pretty early 1900s.  They
made for Sears and other companies.  It is not a Victor or Zonophone.  The
reproducer needs to be rebuilt (I can do that for you) and you should
lubricate all bearings.  You also need to put a bit of light oil on the felt
pads that rub up against the governor disk and the disk itself where it
slides on its central shaft.   Use each needle for only one record.  It's
cheaper to get new needles than a new record.   A musical instrument repair
man can straighten the bell of the horn too.  

Ron L'Herault

-----Original Message-----
From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of David Lewis
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:25 PM
To: 78-l
Subject: [78-L] Mystery Turntable

My friend Dave (not on this list) wrote me:

I have recently inherited an old phonograph my grandma had - I'd played it
all the time as a child in the 1960s-70s, and periodically ever since - it
works fine (though a little slower to spool up to speed now than I recall).
I'd talked about it with my grandma in the past couple years, as she'd tried
to get me to take it home for ages. She referred to it as a victor I think,
so I always assumed that's what it was. But it has no listening-dog, no
stamps on the arm or decals on the 13.5" bi-metal horn with (8.5"mouth), so
if it is a Victor it's probably very early. Also she has a ton of old Victor
releases (#42 is the earliest), and others called the devices Victrola's so
it may have been a generic term. The 9.75" square base handles 10" records,
and appears to be stained oak, with dove-tailed corner joints. Green felt
table, side crank. No visible controls other than crank and brake. No studs,
nothing on the top of the box (Steve Jobs would have LOVED this thing!).
I've inclu  ded a some photos below.
It looks a little like an Oxford, but those were late enough to have the dog
or at least Victor stamped in the metal parts. I've taken the horn and arm
completely apart, and there's no makers mark at all... my grandparents and
their parents were pretty cheap (good Germans!), so it could have been some
kind of early knock off. But here's the thing: a number of her records are
german marches, race music, etc, and many pre-1910 Victor and Columbia
titles in the pile of records. That suggests it belonged to my
great-grandpa/grandma (somewhat unlikely, though the content would have fit
my German-speaking 2nd generation great-grandpa), or my grandma's aunt or
grandma (much more likely - they were into music, had fun, but were also
German, still their tastes evolved considerably over the collection). My
grandma was born in 1920, and got married in 1938 so it may have been a
present or inheritance from her aunt. To my understanding she was a little
better off in the Depression, so mo  re likely to have had the means to buy
an early phonograph and keep it stocked with music.
I have put up his pictures of this machine at:
https://app.box.com/s/ahh6r1wuzi6wi7t785cf
Can anyone help?
Uncle Dave Lewis
uncledavelewis at hotmail.com 		 	   		  
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