[78-L] Canadian, American, like what's the difference eh?

Jeff Sultanof jeffsultanof at gmail.com
Mon Nov 4 09:34:59 PST 2013


I had copies of "Sound of Music" and "Fiddler" and these had the
regular RCA Victor black labels.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, DAVID BURNHAM <burnhamd at rogers.com> wrote:
> I don't think the "William Byrd Suite" by the Toronto Symphony was ever pressed on U.S. Victor but I understand the set was available in the U.S. as an import.  David Hall listed it in his "Record Book".  On the same day the T.S. recorded excerpts from the "Planets" and "Pomp and Circumstance Marches".  I think one or both of those may have been released on U.S. Victor.  Was the Montreal recording of Fauré's "Requiem" released on U.S. Victors?
>
> Talking about Shows and Soundtracks, was "The Sound of Music", "Fiddler on the Roof" and "Hair" not released on Red Seal in the U.S.?  I remember that earlier soundtrack recordings such as "Peter Pan" with Mary Martin were released on Green Label records and, if I remember correctly, "Paint Your Wagon" was issued on Green Label 78s, once again, I'm a long way from my records so my memory might be sketchy.
>
> As I've mentioned here before, I was astonished to find a U.S. pressing of Peter Dawson's "Waltzing Matilda" on Red Seal;  all of Peter Dawson's records were on Black label in Canada, (except for the D'Oyly Carte "Pirates of Penzance").  In England they were on the cheaper Plum label.
>
> db
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>
>>________________________________
>> From: Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com>
>>To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 10:49:18 AM
>>Subject: Re: [78-L] Canadian, American, like what's the difference eh?
>>
>>
> >From this side of the border I can confirm Lenneck's observation of the
>>complete absence of cross-border migration of records.  To this day we
>>never see Canadian records -- 78's OR LPs -- here in the U.S. except for
>>a rare group you might find in a Salvation Army that would seem to have
>>come from one donation from one family of ex-pat Canadians who moved
>>here with their records.  I NEVER saw late electrical Canadian
>>bat-wings.  Even now I was astonished to see that RCA Victor LPs of
>>shows and soundtracks were on Red Seal labels when junking in Toronto a
>>couple of years ago.  Perhaps a few would have been seen in the border
>>towns, but not as far down as the NYC area I grew up in.  It was a big
>>deal when we would find a Canadian penny!
>>
>>
>>Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>>
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: [78-L] Canadian, American, like what's the difference eh?
>>From: "Han Enderman" <jcenderman at solcon.nl>
>>Date: Mon, November 04, 2013 10:33 am
>>To: "78-L" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>
>>The Canadian patriotic Columbia P series (blue-white with flag) has
>>been discussed here long ago.
>>Did Canadian Columbia press records from the US catalog (A- & -D
>>series) of the teens/20s ?
>>If yes, how can such pressings be recognized (minor differences on
>>labels) ?
>>
>>han enderman
>>===
>>>>>
>>The Canadian operation pressed many of the important recordings but
>>also tried
>>to replace many with their own versions in the 216xxx series. I never
>>saw a US
>>Victor in the flesh till I began serious collecting in the early 60s,
>>other
>>than the odd one someone had brought up on a trip.
>>Columbias were a different story, looked almost identical.
>>Brunswicks said made in Canada but the labels were virtually identical
>>(not forgetting the earliest Vertical ones which were pressed only in
>>Canada).
>>
>>dl
>>
>>On 11/4/2013 7:51 AM, rjh334578gmail wrote:
>>> Were American Victors available at all in Canada?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPod - which explainz the bad typjng
>>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2013, at 11:22 PM, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just happened to catch a tv spot for ANCESTRY.CA, a Canadian site
>>>> (supposedly). Shows an old record spinning. An AMERICAN Victor
>>>> batwing. Nice
>>>> research, morons.
>>>>
>>>> dl
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