[78-L] Marian Anderson

Sat Sep 28 13:38:37 PDT 2013

Anderson's Remington-Morse 13517 was just sold  for $10:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marian-ANDERSON-Heavn-Heavn-Sometimes-I-Feel-Like-A-Motherless-Child-E-/380636539718?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item589fb4ab46&nma=true&si=knzvF34Thbr%252F1bhYR4mnGyvw31E%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_815wt_885

Being a Buy It Now, it could have been seen for some time.
Heav'n has 11750 on label & in the wax, Sometimes ...49 (written at 12h, stamped at 6h).
So are these now the correct numbers (on or from master pressings), or have they been added
wrongly to dubs?.
50 for Heav'n is as on Sonora (the Davis gives 49).

han enderman
===
>>> Don't hold me to this, but some pressings of the Masterpiece issue may be 
correct and some may have reversed matrix numbers. I don't have any of the 
discs handy to check.

dl

On 9/27/2013 6:24 PM, Han Enderman wrote:
> David, I guess the mx.nrs on (Joe) Davis are reversed, and thus correct on
> Masterpiece 8532 [this is the correct nr]
> Then Rainer is right about Artiphon 11749/50.
>
> I assume it is as follows:
> Artiphon 11749/50 has Heav'n&  Sometimes, mx-title connection unconfirmed.
> The Swedish Sonora 2034 has 50 for Himmel (Heaven) and there is no reason
> to doubt the mx.nr on this label. Presumably directly from Germany (who has
> the Artiphon masters?).
> Davis/Joe Davis reversed the mx.nrs and give 49 for Heav'n, as does Belvox.
> Masterpiece&  Remington give 50 again.
>
> han enderman
> ===
>>>>
> As I noted, my copy of the Masterpiece issue (which didn't credit Anderson,
> just read "contralto with piano") reversed the matrix numbers. They were
> correct on Davis, I believe. "Air de Lia" was the lost side (no US 78 issue).
> Belvox pressings look and feel like other Oberstein issues from the early 40s.
> All Obie issues are dubs, at least 3 (maybe 4?) sides in the Davis set appear
> to be master pressings (no lead-in, vintage lead-out, machined numbers).
>
> dl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Han Enderman
> To: 78-L
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 6:31 PM
> Subject: [78-L] Marian Anderson
>
>
> Apparently there is a mixing up of the mxs of the first 2 titles, 11749/50.
> Assuming that the Artiphon release = matrix numbers supplied by Rainer Lotz
> are correct, then Masterpiece 8432 has the correct mxs
> (Masterpiece 8432B Sometimes... shows mx 11749-2)
> (but are those Oberstein reissues dubs?).
>
> Heav'n Heav'n has following mxs ON THE LABELS:
> 11749 - Davis DA-26-1, Joe Davis 8900-A, Belvox 503-A
> 11750 - Masterpiece 8532-A, Remington-Morse 13517-A
> Reverses, as far as seen, have the other nr.
>
> Rem-Morse 13517-B is Sometimes..., as expected.
> I have not seen Davis 8900 (can it be confirmed?), but have a picture of
> Joe Davis 8900-A.
> On Joe Davis&  Belvox the exact title is "Heav'n, Heav'n", with comma.
> Is Belvox a later label?
>
> I assume Sonata is the Swedish label.
> Sonora here is also Swedish; I have bad scans of "Himmel Himmel!",
> mx ...50, on 2034, and of ..49 on the reverse (also with Swedish title).
> (there was also an US Sonora 2000 series; my highest image is 2027 by Roy Smeck).
>
> Sonora 166 is not clear to me. What is a Sonora 100 series?
>
> han enderman
> ===
>>>> Marian Anderson's 1930 Berlin recordings for ARTIPHON were reissued
> on a number of 78rpm labels, including flexible Phonycord,
> Belvox (was this a US label ??), Joe DAVIS, and Masterpiece.
>
> There appear to be 7 masters - were they all issued by Artiphon, what was on the
> other side of the odd matrix ??
>
> The issue numbers for DAVIS appear to be an album number-side - is that correct?
> What are the ones I've missed ??
> Was there any MASTERPIECE issue other than 8532 ??
> Any other 78 releases ??
>
> LISTING:
>
> 11749  Sometimes I Feel Like A Motherless Child
>                  Artiphon D-11749  Phonycord P94  BELVOX 503-B  DAVIS 26->? MASTERPIECE 8532B
> 11750  Heav'n Heav'n
>                  Artiphon          Phonycord P-94 BELVOX 503-A  DAVIS       MASTERPIECE 8532A
> 11767  Air De Lia. L'enfant Prodiguez-Debussy
>                  ARTIPHON 11767    Phonycord P-112
> 11768  Air des Adieux (Tschaikovsky) Jeanne D'Arc
>                  ARTIPHON 11768                   BELVOX 505-A  DAVIS 26-5
> 11769  O Mio Fernando Part 1
>                  Artiphon                         BELVOX 504-A  DAVIS 26-3
> 11770    Part 2  (La Favorita-Donizetti)
>                  Artiphon                         BELVOX 504-B  DAVIS 26-4
> 11771  O Love from Thy Power (Saint-Saens) Sampson and Delilah
>                  Artiphon         Phonycord P-112 BELVOX 505-B  DAVIS 26-8
>
> THANKS!
> Best wishes, Thomas.
> ---
> One thing I remember (don't have the discs here to inspect) is that Masterpiece
> reversed the matrix numbers. And a few of the Davis sides appear to be master
> pressings. I don't know if the Phonycord has dubbed sides, but it's slightly
> smaller than ten-inch (and the quality is excellent on it). Blue vinyl.
> I've only seen one Belvox.
> dl
> ---
> Also, Belvox was an Oberstein label. It might mean that the 3 discs were sold
> as a set. And I had only Phonycord P112 (didn't know about P94).
>
> Here's what was the most up-to-date info on these sides when I did a Marian
> Anderson CD 9 years ago (I didn't list any of the other labels, just first issues).
>
> 1.  Heav'n Heav'n (Traditional, arr. H. T. Burleigh)
>       with William King, piano
>       Artiphon D 11749, mx 11749; c. October 1930, Berlin (2:52)
> 2.  Sometimes I Feel like a Motherless  Child (Traditional, arr. Lawrence Brown)
>       with William King, piano
>       Artiphon D 11750, mx 11750; c. October 1930, Berlin (3:35)
> 3.  L'Enfant Prodigue: Air de Lia: Pourquoi M'as-tu Quittée? (Debussy-Guimand)
>       with orchestra; in French
>       Artiphon D 11767, mx 11767; c. November 1930, Berlin (3:49)
> 4.  Jeanne d'Arc: Adieu Forêts (Tchaikovsky)
>       with orchestra; in French
>       Artiphon D 11768, mx 11768; c. November 1930, Berlin (3:41)
> 5.  Samson et Dalila: Amour Viens Aider (O Love From Thy Powers) (Saint-Saens)
>       with orchestra
>       Artiphon D 11771, mx 11771; c. November 1930, Berlin (3:33)
> 6.  La Favorita: O Mio Fernando (Donizetti)
>       with orchestra; in Italian
>       Artiphon D 11769/70, mx 11769/70; c. November 1930, Berlin (6:12)
> dl
> ===
>
> [NOTE:
> Lotz section copied from 78-L archive, which accounts for the confused lay-out]
>
> The discography is rather complicated. My files show the following.
> But there is certainly room for a lot of improvement and clarificatiosn
> (R.Lotz)
>
> *Marian Anderson, W. King, piano*
>
> *Marian Anderson mit grossem Orchester -- am Flügel: William King*
>
> *ARTIPHON*
>
> *Berlin,ca Oktober 1930*
>
> 11749Sometimes I feel like a motherless childArtiphon D.11749/50,
> Phonycord 677,
>
> SpiritualP.94, Sonora 2034, 166, Belvox 503B,
>
> Bearbeitung: Lawrence BrownSonata 10, Remington-Morse ?
>
> Concertone 318, Royale 1765,
>
> Davis DA.26-1/2, 8900, Ultra P.1504°,
>
> Masterpiece 8532B, Royale 1765
>
> NOTE: Masterpiece 8432B shows mx 11749-2
>
> 11750Heaven, Heaven (Heav'n! Heav'n!)Artiphon D.11750/49, Artiphone F.1006,
>
> SpiritualPhonycord 677, P.94, Royale 1765,
>
> Bearbeitung: Harry BurleighMasterpiece 8532A, Sonora 2034, 166,
>
> Sonata 10, Remington-Morse ?
>
> Concertone 318, Davis DA.26-2/1, 8900,
>
> Belvox 503A, Ultra P.1504°,
>
> Music Hall MHT.2013, 2016
>
> NOTE: rev Music Hall by Jan Peerce
>
> **
>
> *Marian Anderson (Contralto) With Orchestra *(Royale)**
>
> *M. Anderson con accompagn. d'orchestra *[?sic]**
>
> *Marian Anderson mit grossem Orchester *[Blüthner-Orchester, Dirigent:
> Helmuth Thierfelder]**
>
> *ARTIPHON*
>
> *Berlin,ca Oktober/November 1930*
>
> 11767Azraël, pourquoi m'as-tu quittée?Artiphon D.11767/68,
>
> Air de Lia a. d. Oper "L'enfant prodigue"Phonycord 677, 679, P.112,
>
> M: Claude Debussy, L.57
>
> T: Edouard Guinand
>
> 11768Adieu forêtsArtiphon D.11768/67, 11768/71,
>
> Air des adieux a. d. Oper "Orleanskaya Deva"["Jeanne d'Arc"]Phonycord
> 679, 683, Belvox 505A,
>
> M+T: Pjotr TschaikowskyRoyale 1764, Davis DA.26-5/6
>
> NOTE: Belvox 505 shows mx 11768-2
>
> 11769O mio Fernando, 1.TeilArtiphon D.11769/70, Phonycord 681,
>
> Air de Léonor a. d. Oper "La favorite", III/11Royale 1763, Davis DA.26-3/4,
>
> M: Gaëtano DonizettiBelvox 504°
>
> T: Alphonse Royer, G. Vaëz, A. Eugène Scribe
>
> 11770O mio Fernando, 2.TeilArtiphon D.1170/69, Phonycord 681,
>
> Air de Léonor a. d. Oper "La favorite", III/11Royale 1763, Davis DA.26-4/3,
>
> M: Gaëtano DonizettiBelvox 504B
>
> T: Alphonse Royer, G. Vaëz, A. Eugène Scribe
>
> 11771O love from thy pow's [Amour, viens aider]Artiphon D.11771/68,
> Empire 81*,
>
> [P 152*][Mon coeur s'ouvre à ta voix ]Phonycord P.152,
>
> Scène de Dalia a. d. Oper "Samson et Dalia", II/1Royale 1764, Davis
> DA.26-6/5
>
> M: Camille Saint-Saëns
>
> T: Ferdinand Lemaire)
>
> NOTE: Belvox 505 shows mx 11771-2
>
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