[78-L] Glenn Miller - why so late on the label?

[Taylor Bowie]

Getting one's name on a studio band label as nominal leader didn't have 
anything to do with the process of forming a working band.  There are a 
number of Electradisks which are all the Joe Haymes band but the pseudonyms 
were rotated between some of the sidemen,  e.g. Mike Doty,  Dick Clark, Carl 
Snyder,  etc.

Have no idea why those 1933 Vocalions were issued under Berigan's name but I 
doubt he organized or managed the session.

I can't recall the story on those Melotones from '30 and '31 issued as by 
Bennie Goodman and his Orchestra but I don't recall that BG was any more 
than the nominal leader...ditto for those Columbia sides around the same 
time with Charlie Teagardem  Fats Waller,  etc.

The Dorseys were on a ton of studio records but as far as I know the records 
issued in  '28 to '30 under their name were by the actual Dorsey Brothers 
Orchestra,  which seemed to have a pretty consistent personnel.

Taylor


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rodger Holtin" <rjh334578 at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [78-L] Glenn Miller - why so late on the label?


He certainly had more of that available to him than Bunny Berigan had in 
1933. It might be argued it cost nothing to get his name on the label over 
anybody else's in the band - or even a totally fabricated nom de disque. 
Look at all the other lesser lights who got their names on the labels when 
nobody had heard of them, either.

Was this a conscious decision on Miller's part to keep his name off the 
labels until he was ready for a big debut, or "luck of the draw"?

Rodger



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--- On Sun, 6/2/13, Ron L'Herault <lherault at bu.edu> wrote:

From: Ron L'Herault <lherault at bu.edu>
Subject: Re: [78-L] Glenn Miller - why so late on the label?
To: "'78-L Mail List'" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Date: Sunday, June 2, 2013, 7:58 PM

My guess is that he had to build up capital and a book of charts, find men,
rehearse etc.

Ron L

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Evidently I was not clear enough on the question.
Why did it take him until 1935 to get credited such as "Glenn Miller and His
..." ...orchestra, boys, men etc?

Rodger



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--- On Sun, 6/2/13, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:

From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [78-L] Glenn Miller - why so late on the label?
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Date: Sunday, June 2, 2013, 7:44 PM

He's on the label of the Dorsey Brothers ANNIE'S COUSIN FANNY as composer,
and I think that's 1933.

dl

On 6/2/2013 8:41 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
> He was an active sideman, e.g. with the Mound City Blue Blowers on
> "Hello Lola" and if memory serves, was in sections which included T.
>
> Ron L
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> Holtin
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 7:00 PM
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> Subject: [78-L] Glenn Miller - why so late on the label?
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> Glenn
> Miller was older and had been around as long or longer than Benny
> Goodman, Jack Teagarden or even Bunny Berigan, but all of them got
> their names on the label of some studio sides they made long before
> Miller; BG in the 1920s, Jack in
> 1930 and even relative latecomer Berigan in 1933. As a contractor
> known to all the producers, Miller surely had the contacts, and he had
> his sights set on leadership since he was in college, so why did it
> take him until 1935 to get his name on the label? Coincidences, or
> some plan of delayed gratification, or waiting until he felt the time
> was right?? Did he tell George T Simon? Anybody know?
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> Rodger
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