[78-L] SUN Label 78s

[Ryan Wolfe]

When Sun started in 1952 he hadn't even got his Ampex yet, so his early releases were recorded to disc.   And yes he mastered 'in house.'    Numerous photos are around of his control room and equipment, showing Sam cutting a lacquer, ect.


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AFAIK at 706 Union he had a Presto 6N overhead feed disc recorder on which
he made lacquer cuts, both for those wanting reference discs and for
masters for his releases.


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Rjholtin <rjh334578 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Did Sam Phillips have a lathe to make his own disc masters, or was his
> disc work limitedt to the one-of market, such as the lone lacquer Pelvis
> supposedly made for his mother?
>
> Sent from my iPod - which explainz the bad typjng
>
> On May 9, 2013, at 6:53 PM, "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com> wrote:
>
> From: Clifford Bolling <78records at cdbpdx.com>
> The SUN label I refer to here is the Memphis, Tennessee label
> where you hear very early Johnny Cash and Elvis recordings. CDB
>
> I think they all knew that -- they were just trying to fun you.
>
> Greetings. I have several SUN label 78s that exhibit 2 different
> font styles for the same song title and artist on different records.
> One record will have bold small font, the other a tall regular weight
> font. I assume these are the result of earlier and later
> pressings/printings. Is one style early and the other later? Which
> is which? Thanks! CDB
>
> Throughout the history of this label it was pressed in many different
> pressing plants, sometimes several simultaneously.  Occasionally it was
> because he didn't get his bills paid, and other times it was to get
> copies into different markets with a minimum of delay.  I once spent an
> afternoon at the Country Music Foundation Library where they had several
> hundred Sun 78s and maybe a thousand Sun 45s, going through them to see
> if there were any patterns.  There were no consistent trends except the
> labels almost universally had distinctly printed shading dots in the
> trademark logo.  Dots were not smeared or clustered.
>
> Yes there are occasional counterfeits, but rarely are they of anything
> but Elvis.  If the dots are smeared on an Elvis Sun, they ARE
> counterfeits. There also are some Cinderella issues -- things that never
> really did come out on Sun like the recordings only RCA put out, or
> those color vinyl Elvis 78s.  These were noted at the time in the
> collector press, but new collectors might not know about these issues,
> mainly in the early 80s.
>
> But to answer your question, they might not be earlier or later, they
> might be contemporary of each other.
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
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