[78-L] Pete Daily's Dixieland Band

[Rodger Holtin]

Thanks, fellas, for the details.  

I think these are the first Duke Daily
records I’ve run into, and I’m a sucker for tuba/bass stuff.  Aural evidence points to an expert tubist on
Daily Rag, but the guy playing the solo on Big Bass Horn Blues is barely
getting by.  Composer on Big Bass Horn
Blues is Phil Stephens, and while it is suggestive of his playing it, that’s
not proof of performance.  

On Daily Rag,
the tuba is strong and confident – much like what we hear from County Joe at
any point in his career, and between 0:15 and 0:40 the
tuba expertly executes some nice runs and cleanly navigates a fine legato
counter melody in the upper range, again, much like Joe.  These
things seem very difficult for the guy on the Big Bass Horn Blues, which is
rife with uneven, unsupported tones, and feathered attacks, all missing on Daily
Rag.  True, those weaknesses may be there
and masked by the ensemble, but that’s what I hear, anyway.  My son the professional tuba
player/instructor agreed with me, so I had to ask.  I’ll send an mp3 to anybody who wants to hear
either or both.



Rodger



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--- On Sun, 4/7/13, Randy Watts <rew1014 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Randy Watts <rew1014 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [78-L] Pete Daily's Dixieland Band
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Date: Sunday, April 7, 2013, 11:49 AM

 
Ruppli has 5101-3 as the mx. for "Dixieland Shuffle," with no mention of 5101-2. My copy of "Dixieland Shuffle" (15433 in album CC-183) has 5101-3D1 in the runoff.
 
Also Ruppli does have "Big Bass Horn Blues" as 5107-3, but recorded at the October 19 session.
 
He adds Country Washburne on tuba (with Phil Stephens) to the session personnel. Stephens is the only tuba player credited on the six sides in CC-183, though.
 
Randy


----- Original Message -----
> From: Han Enderman <jcenderman at solcon.nl>
> To: 78-L <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 9:02 AM
> Subject: [78-L] Pete Daily's Dixieland Band
> 
> From Bruyninckx:
> Pete Dailey and his Chicagoans: 
> 
> Pete Dailey (cnt) Warren Smith (tb) Stan Story (cl) Don Owens (p) Nappy Lamare 
> (g,bj) Phil Stephens (tu,b) George Defebaugh (d)
> 
> Los Angeles, Ca., October 19, 1949
> 
> 5099-4 At the Georgia camp meeting Cap 15434, EPA2-183, (E)CL13404
> 
> 5100-1 When the saints go marching in - , - , -
> 
> 5101-2 Dixieland shuffle 15433, -
> 
> 5102-2 Sensation rag 15432, EPA1-183
> 
> Note : Entire session on Capitol H/T183 and (E)LC6525.
> 
> It seems that Mx. 5101-3 exists on a US issue but the information hasn't 
> been confirmed.
> 
> Los Angeles, Ca., October 20, 1949
> 
> 5103-2 Minnie the mermaid Cap 1055, H/T183
> 
> 5104-3 Original dixieland one-step 15432, H/T183, (E)LC6525
> 
> 5105-2 Daily rag 805, H/T183, (G)C80120, Folkways RBF39
> 
> 5106-2 Careless love Cap 15433, H/T183, (E)C6525, (G)80120
> 
> 5107-3 Big bass horn blues Cap 805, H/T183, (G)C80135
> 
> Dailey only on cnt on all his own recordings.
> 
> The mxs & comp. are shown on the labels.
> Comp. of Big Bass Horn are Phil Stephens-Dippy Larkin, and this strongly 
> suggests
> that Stephens plays the tuba here.
> 
> han enderman
> ===
>>>>  Pete Daily's Dixieland Band
> 
> Last weekend I picked up a copy of Capitol 805 by Pete Daily's
> Dixieland Band.
> 
> Master 1505=Daily Rag; 1507=Big Bass Horn Blues.  Somebody else thoughtfully 
> posted it on the
> internet here:
> 
> http://www.discogs.com/Pete-Dailys-Dixieland-Band-Daily-Rag-Big-Bass-Horn-Blues/release/3080437
> 
> Had I known to look for it instead of finding it in a pile,
> I could have saved myself 99¢.  C'est la vie, but I've certainly enjoyed 
> it, 
> so it was worth it.  And, it was such a timely find with the
> recent discussion of Pete Kelly's Blues. 
> 
> I have two questions about this disc; one mechanical, one musical.
> 
> The musical question: 
> Wiki says he was Jack Webb's inspiration for his trumpeter-hero part in
> Pete Kelly's Blues.  According to Feather's
> New Encyclopedia of Jazz (1960), Pete was primarily a cornet player, but played
> baritone and tuba in high school. Rust's Jazz Records (1986) shows him on a 
> 1930
> session playing cornet and bass sax.  
> The tuba on the solo side sure sounds like a trumpet player using a tuba, 
> whereas
> the tuba on the other side sure has all the robust sound lacking on the solo
> side, leading me to conclude that Pete traded chairs with the tuba guy for the
> solo side.  
> Can somebody confirm/deny/correct, or provide personnel for this session?
> 
> Rodger  
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