[78-L] Van Cliburn

[Philip Carli]

The Rachmaninoff 3 is certainly not the most over-programmed concerto in concert lists; its structural and technical difficulties held it back for years, and it's coming through more now, but it will take another century for it to catch up to the Second concerto.

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Note that we have now identified 75% of Vladimir Horowitz's recorded concerto
repertoire.

dl

On 3/1/2013 9:05 AM, Cary Ginell wrote:
> On our classical radio station, KUSC, it's Mendelssohn's Fiddle Concerto.
>
> Cary
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> On Mar 1, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "David Lennick"<dlennick at sympatico.ca>  wrote:
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>> The most overPLAYED concerto these days is probably Rach III. I'm at the point
>> now where I look at my watch through the Brahms II. These things come and go.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> On 3/1/2013 1:29 AM, Philip Carli wrote:
>>> I have to say something - possibly the most _overhyped_ pianist in history, who still had good points, was Paderewski; the most _overrated_, based upon recordings, might be a tie between de Pachmann and Hambourg; the Tchaikovsky 1st may be one of the two most _overplayed_ piano concertos in the repertoire (the other being the Grieg) but I'm not sure about the "overrated" part.  Other concertos come up awfully often too but no-one dares to say anything about them, even if they don't care for them, for fear of being labelled a heretic - they're by more "venerated" composers than Tchaikovsky or Grieg. For overplaying, there's a great story by Berlioz in his _Evenings With The Orchestra_ about a piano that takes off on its own after dozens of Conservatoire prize aspirants in succession have played the Mendelssohn G minor concerto on it.  I haven't heard that concerto in concert in years, and it used to be on the top shelf of repertoire reliables.
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>>> Take it down a notch, maybe.  The US is full of ranters on all sorts of topics right now.  We could use a break from our allies.  PC
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