[78-L] Where were the dubbed Caruso records made?

[Ryan Wolfe]

They used an awful 78 copy of Vesti la giubba left in stereo so all the groove damage would be more apparent.


________________________________
 From: Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com>
To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Where were the dubbed Caruso records made?
 
From: David Weiner <djwein at earthlink.net>
> Here's Tetrazzini listening to and singing along with Caruso in 1932 -
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMXScCik6Jo   Dave Weiner

WOW!!!!!

And I do have all three of the ORF overdub CDs.  Note that these were
made with the Soundstream technique of REMOVING the orchestra.  And I do
need to make a correction because it is on the ORF CD that they compare
their system to an original that had been used as a paving stone, not
Stockham.  Stockham's demo was comparing an original with one that had
the orchestra removed.

And speaking of that demo, let me recommend you all give a listen to the
ULTIMATE Caruso restoration: Charles Dodge's Any Resemblance Is Purely
Coincidental.    http://archive.org/details/P_DOD_CHA_04
Please listen to this.  It is a REAL TREAT!!  (This is not the same
performance that is on the original CD, and I cannot recommend the two
videos of other performances because you can barely hear Caruso.)

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com

On 2/28/13 2:06 PM, "Ryan Wolfe" <nextset4 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I just remembered that Luisa Tetrazzini had some of her records
>> re-dubbed with new orchestra. I've never heard them.
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Ryan Wolfe <nextset4 at yahoo.com>
>The William R. Moran discography lists 42 sides that were attempted, 18
>of which were left unissued in 78 RPM.
>
>I've also understood that in the U.S. the non-dubbed originals were
>completely withdrawn from the Victor catalog until 1946 or something?
>
>I know of no other artists that were given this treatment.
>
>Some of the dubbed Caruso's (like the 1917 M'Appari) are not terrible,
>some (like A Granada) are. The orchestra doesn't even stay in time with
>Caruso. The effect of all of them seems to make Caruso's voice sound
>too small in relation to the orchestra.
>
>In case anyone is unaware, this was done again modern style for a couple
>of CD's "Caruso 2000" and another thing. The 1930's dubbings are
>better than those.
>
>
>
>________________________________
From: "neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com" <neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com>
>I did not know there were so many.
>Were there other artists who were given this same treatment in the early
>electrical days, or was Mr. C. the sole recipient of this honor?
>joe salerno

_______________________________________________
78-L mailing list
78-L at klickitat.78online.com
http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l