[78-L] Jazz Singer Blu-ray set -- my Amazon review

[Thomas Stern]

Has anyone found an inexpensive (<$150) multi-zone blu-ray player???

I know of 2 machines, both have problems - the Best-Buy INSIGNIA BRDVD4 [which
is no longer available, and in later versions of the microcode dropped the multi-zone capability] - this plays some of the
"extras" on blu-ray disks as thumbnail sized images; and the OREI BRD-M2
which will not play "zone free" blu-ray disks (how ironic!!).

IMO region and zone coding is testament to the fear, ignorance, and greed of corporate amerika.
Unfortunately, too few people know or care about this to bring pressure on congress to outlaw
this technological enforcement of these cartels.

Best wishes, Thomas.

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[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Sultanof
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I get it. That's why I haven't bought the Blu-ray of "Spartacus" which I
understand is worse than the DVD.

Jeff S.

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:11 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> I'll grab what TCM runs and check it out. No way am I replacing the old
> set,
> unless it's a free exchange to correct what they should have put out in the
> first place (the producers of the Popeye cartoon sets actually did that
> with
> one volume where the wrong openings appeared). Converting from VHS to a
> superior medium is one thing, but having several editions of the same
> thing and
> deluxe versions and "Don't Call Me Shirley" versions of "Airplane" drive
> me up
> the freakin' wall.
>
> dl
>
> On 1/26/2013 2:11 PM, Jeff Sultanof wrote:
> > Thank you, Dr. Biel for such a great review. I was going to upgrade
> anyway,
> > but this certainly tips the scale.
> >
> > And David, I would imagine that TMC is running the new restoration, as
> the
> > HD transfer for the Blu-ray is now the official master for this feature
> > (Thank goodness those synch issues were addressed).
> >
> > Jeff Sultanof
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I see TMC is showing The Jazz Singer next Saturday morning. Any chance
> >> they'll
> >> have the new restoration?
> >>
> >> dl
> >>
> >> On 1/25/2013 11:28 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
> >>> Since a lot of you on the list might be interested, here (with the
> usual
> >>> disclaimers) is my Amazon review of the new Blu-ray edition of The Jazz
> >>> Singer and Vitaphone collection:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Singer-Blu-ray-Al-Jolson/dp/B009P07QPS/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
> >>>
> >>> Let's cut to the chase because it is obvious that all film collectors
> >>> either need this or already have the DVD -- yes, you DO need to upgrade
> >>> from the DVD to this new Blu-ray edition. It IS that much better.
> >>>
> >>> All of the errors in the DVD have been corrected. The scratches during
> >>> "Dirty Hands, Dirty Face" and much of the rest of the Coffee Dan's
> scene
> >>> have been eliminated without a trace. The mis-matched synchronization
> of
> >>> the entire reel before "Blue Skies" has been fixed. The artificial
> >>> shaking of the inter-titles to disguise them being free-frames has been
> >>> steadied. In the extras, they have put in the correct two scenes from
> >>> "Gold Diggers Of Broadway" -- we actually see Nick Lucas sing in
> 2-strip
> >>> Technicolor "Tip-Toe Through the Tulips" this time. As an additional
> >>> bonus they have added two shorts which have cameo appearances by Al
> >>> Jolson and Ruby Keeler at Santa Anita Raceway. Most of the printed
> >>> extras from the DVD set are in the book except for most of the
> >>> postcards, but they have added some great portraits, bios, and an
> >>> illustrated essay on the earlier film sound systems.
> >>>
> >>> Only disc one is Blu-ray. Discs two and three are still DVD, and
> >>> actually have the same labels and catalog number as the originals -- so
> >>> don't mix them up with your originals or else you'll lose Nick Lucas.
> >>> They are still standard definition, but the first disc is High
> >>> Defination and the image sparkles! The DVD was good, but the Blu-ray
> >>> image will blow you away. It probably looks better than original
> nitrate
> >>> prints looked in 1927. I'll go so far as to say that it proves that you
> >>> DO need to buy that Blu-ray player if you haven't yet.
> >>>
> >>> The aforementioned scratches on the DVD were always a puzzle to me.
> They
> >>> were continuous vertical scratches that often hit right on Jolson's
> >>> face. You could tell they had worked on them because they were faint
> >>> remnants of what must have originally been very deep. But they were
> >>> still there in the most famous scene in the film. When Mary Dale enters
> >>> down the stairs the scratch is right down the middle of her face in the
> >>> first close-up and very heavy at the end of the second close-up.
> (There!
> >>> I've done it!! If you never noticed them before, now you will never be
> >>> able to watch the DVD again without them bothering you!!! Mission
> >>> Accomplished!) But they are GONE in the Blu-ray!!
> >>>
> >>> The sync problem in the DVD starts at the beginning of the train
> station
> >>> scene where they mis-start the disc too late over the letter writing
> >>> close-up. It is as much as 20 seconds off, and the music cues are in
> all
> >>> the wrong places. It is much like the scene in "Singing In the Rain"
> >>> where voices come out of the wrong person's mouths. The bassoon that
> was
> >>> supposed to be mocking the prima donna always came when other people
> >>> were on the screen. The music made no sense. It continues on to the
> >>> neighborhood walk and the entry into his family's apartment. The
> >>> mother's theme music was never there at the correct time. And the end
> of
> >>> the disc was clipped off when the "Blue Skies" reel begins. This had
> >>> never been wrong in previous issues and prints so someone really goofed
> >>> when the DVD was being assembled. But all of this has been fixed in the
> >>> Blu-ray, and the scenes and the music really make sense once again.
> >>>
> >>> Almost all of the inter-titles are freeze-frames. They are noticeable
> >>> because all moving grain of the image stops cold. To disguise this they
> >>> wandered the image slightly in the DVD version. This fake motion was
> >>> supposed to emulate how titles look when the film continues to run, but
> >>> in 35mm theatrical prints this does not happen unless the film is worn.
> >>> The four sprockets per frame should keep the picture steady, unlike
> 16mm
> >>> where there is only one sprocket per frame and the image usually always
> >>> shakes. Saner heads prevailed this time, and the titles are kept steady
> >>> in the Blu-ray. (Again, if you had never noticed this in the DVD, now
> it
> >>> will bother you. Good! Mission accomplished!)
> >>>
> >>> The book is easier to maneuver than all those separate booklets and
> >>> slip-cases of the DVD set. It is much easier to find the list of
> >>> contents of the discs because they are the last two pages of the book,
> >>> rather than being in one of four booklets that you never can find right
> >>> away. They still do not give you any info about the shorts other than
> >>> their title. None of the extras have their track number printed so you
> >>> can easily find which track they are on without having to go back to
> the
> >>> headers on the discs. You have to print this out for yourself from the
> >>> internet. Do be careful when removing disc three fromthe plastic holder
> >>> because there is an added lip that requires it being slid out further
> >>> than you might realize. But these are small nitpicks.
> >>>
> >>> All in all, the original DVD was a bargain for all you got -- but this
> >>> Blu-ray set is even more of a bargain. It IS necessary to get even if
> >>> you already have the DVD set.
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