[78-L] Harold Arlen question

[Han Enderman]

As fas as I know, all those MCA GRD (US) / GRP (Europe) issues were unpleasant.
But in those years (1991) one was glad to be able to afford a CD.
I also bought the Eldridge, with amazing sides like the 1943 World ETs 
"Jump Through The Window" / "Minor Jive", which I had on a worn Brunswick EP,
but I dislike the sound of the CD. I once saw it reviewed as "overbright" and that is what it is:
too shrill.

han enderman
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>>> The reason this has come up is because the Living Era Harold Arlen CD has been 
reissued as part of a double set on Retrospective, and in neither case was 
WOODY credited with the vocal. Neither the labelmeister nor I have any idea how 
that got missed, and the reissue has been reviewed in Jazz Journal, taking us 
to task for implying that Arlen was the sole vocalist on this track.

As I recall, the MCA CD was a bad transfer. I can hear the overlap on my Naxos 
issue. Slight, but there.

dl

On 1/16/2013 4:18 PM, Han Enderman wrote:
> I had played the MCA CD and there was indeed a second, lower voice answering Herman twice.
> Real overlap is not very clear, but at the end of the second fill-in you can also hear that
> Herman starts immediately after Arlen.
>
> My question is: what is the real question?
> Did the Jazz J. reviewer think there was only one singer, or did he doubt the 2nd voice was Arlen?
>
> Any idea if all Arlen vocals are listed in Jazz Records, or is he also on non-jazz dance items?
> He is not in the entertainment dg (at least not in the 2nd ed.).
>
> han enderman
> ===
>>>> Listen again. The voices overlap slightly at 1:17. Woody sings throughout, all
> Arlen sings is "My mama done told me" (twice), but there's no mistaking the
> different voice and mike pickup.
>
> dl
> ---
> You know it and I know it and Simon knew it, but I gotta get something in print.
>
> dl
>
> On 1/16/2013 12:28 PM, djwein at earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> It's Arlen, don't know how anyone could think otherwise. His voice was very distinctive.
>>
>> Dave Weiner
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>> Sent: Jan 16, 2013 12:21 PM
>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Harold Arlen question
>>>
>>> I have the FM set (in storage) and the liner notes were my source as well.
>>> Harold Arlen's autobiography is around here somewhere (Rhythm, Rainbows and
>>> Blues) but not immediately visible.
>>>
>>> YahooGroups seems to be back online so maybe Will Friedwald or another ToNY
>>> member will weigh in.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>> On 1/16/2013 12:09 PM, Han Enderman wrote:
>>>> Long ago I made notes on microgroove issues of prewar jazz, and one of them is:
>>>>
>>>> "10 Sep 1941: Blues In The Night: back-up vocal by Harold Arlen (from Franklin Mint)."
>>>>
>>>> Herman titles were on FM Big Band Era 45&    46 (mixed with postwar tracks), in 4LP Album 12 (= 45-48).
>>>> At the time I had seen the FM set in a library, but there is the possibility that I made the note after a review.
>>>> (I assume the title is not on the FM Jazz set).
>>>>
>>>> The title is on an MCA CD: GRD 606, which only mentions Herman's vocal (as does the Garrod disco).
>>>>
>>>> han enderman
>>>> ===
>>>>>>> Confirmation needed (will settle for a bar mitzvah). Harold Arlen is the
>>>> fill-in voice on Woody Herman's "Blues in the Night", no? My source for this
>>>> was the Franklin Mint big band set (notes by George T. Simon, I think, but the
>>>> albums are in storage where I can't check them) and I've seen other references
>>>> but nothing I can point to right now. This is being questioned by a reviewer in
>>>> Jazz Journal, so I need to provide something firm. What sayeth the Lord?
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>> <<<