[78-L] E*AY Seller Complaint - Bait & Switch on a $300 Record

Cary Ginell soundthink at live.com
Fri Jan 4 13:43:09 PST 2013


Are there any Paramount 14000s that come from unissued material? If so, if it's a 20s artist, should those command higher prices? And what about Paramount/Steiner releases that might also be from ARC masters? I have a couple of Lead Bellys from the series (14006, 14017) that I think are from this period. Or should we treat these like 1949 Harmonys?
Cary Ginell



> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:02:28 -0800
> From: craigventresco at gmail.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] E*AY Seller Complaint - Bait & Switch on a $300 Record
> 
> Still, before you bid a lot on a Paramount record you should study a
> discography long enough to figure out that there is no Paramount record
> from the 20's or early 30's in a 14000 series OR with black and silver
> labels....That seems like pretty common knowledge to me...
> 
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Harold Aherne <leotolstoy_75 at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
> > IMO, a good Ebay seller should always note when a pressing is of a
> > significantly later vintage than the recording itself. Perhaps (say) a 1917
> > pressing of a 1914 Victor master isn't so significant (although it may be
> > if the collector cares about how far advanced the "stamper generation" is).
> > But for a sought-after recording like the one you describe, sellers need to
> > be as forthcoming as possible about all the features of the
> > record--defects, label damage, sound quality, and (in this case) the fact
> > that the disc is essentially a 1948 replica of the original 1920s
> > issue--and in this form, really not so sought-after.
> >
> > You can at least say that you own a 78 of the recording--you just
> > shouldn't have been expected to pay what you did.
> >
> > (love your YT channel, by the way)
> >
> > -HA
> >
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Clifford Bolling wrote:
> >
> > > Anybody here familiar with 2ndfiddlerecords (aka George Casalle) of
> > Chicago?  I'm wondering if I should
> > > worry about dealing with this fellow.  I bought a Blind Lemon Jefferson
> > record from him (auction #121039784517)
> > > described as Grades N-,  Never Played,  Excellent, and so on.  I found
> > out the photos in the auction are of a
> > > record that sold on ebay in Sep, 2011.  The record I got was not the
> > record in the pictures and had significant
> > > environmental damage to both sides in addition to significant label
> > damage on both sides.  I did not examine it
> > > close enough to tell if it had ever been played.  Could be unplayed.
> > >
> > > I paid an embarrassingly high price for this record, but the photos and
> > description seemed a once in a lifetime
> > > opportunity, so I bid on it.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I sent him a note with these issues.  Haven't heard back from
> > him yet.  He has 100% positive feedback so
> > > he must be doing something right, just not this time.
> > >
> > > Has anyone here had issue with this seller?  Please, someone, say
> > something that will ease my anxiety.
> > >
> > > Thanks!  CDB
> >
> >
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