[78-L] A bit o' grit

neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com
Fri Jan 4 07:56:50 PST 2013

I have not heard this one. I have heard a pirate CD of Gilels in the 
Rach 3 in which the orchestra sounds like it is in another room due to 
the prominence of the piano. Much orchestral detail is lost.

joe salerno

On 1/3/2013 4:29 PM, David Lennick wrote:
> Ever hear the Emil Gilels Tchaikovsky 2nd on Baroque? Live recording, from a
> Russian tape. Gilels got lost in the last movement, and the producer (someone I
> know) made a valiant attempt to edit the tape into something sensible. And he
> did it twice..the mono and stereo versions are different!
> dl
> On 1/3/2013 5:19 PM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
>> A photog's loop doesn't cost that much and would probably suffice for
>> many applications. Also other things around the house. I think last time
>> I bought one it was about $15 at a camera shop. You might even find one
>> with a built in light. They can be made small enough nowadays.
>> On the subject of bad editing, I have a CD somewhere of the Tchaikovsky
>> Piano Concerto ,not an unfamiliar work at all, that has an EXTRA measure
>> where an extra repetition was inserted. And done well too, you can't
>> even tell that the music was inserted. With time audio editing has not
>> always improved. And there's that Horowitz CD in which a huge piece of
>> the music was omitted and the audio made a very obvious jump. They don't
>> proof listen to these things it seems.
>> joe salerno
>> On 1/3/2013 1:46 PM, David Lennick wrote:
>>> Interesting. The clicks can be dealt with digitally, but getting a straight
>>> play through is more important, since the person trying to piece it together
>>> from the semi-complete fragments may not know how the music is supposed to go
>>> (I have a pressing on Richmond of Ansermet conducting Le Sacre where a passage
>>> starts and stops, then re-starts, and someone didn't know there should have
>>> been an edit).
>>> I don't have a microscope but the element causing the disturbance is definitely
>>> atop the grooves, not a pit or dig.
>>> dl
>>> On 1/3/2013 2:04 PM, Christopher Steward wrote:
>>>> You could try this:
>>>> http://daveyw.edsstuff.org/vinyl/inspection/
>>>> Chris
>>>> --- On Thu, 3/1/13, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>   wrote:
>>>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>>> Subject: [78-L] A bit o' grit
>>>> To: "78L"<78-L at 78online.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, 3 January, 2013, 16:41
>>>> Does anyone have any cure, outside of using a chisel, for a bit of grit that
>>>> adheres to a fine-groove lp and causes skips and/or repeats and does not come
>>>> out with either the professional cleaning methods (Monks et al) or a carefully
>>>> aimed fingernail?
>>>> dl
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Joe Salerno

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