[78-L] E*AY Seller Complaint - Bait & Switch on a $300 Record

Tim Huskisson timhuskisson at btinternet.com
Fri Jan 4 07:53:42 PST 2013

I was expecting your photos to show a record in much poorer condition. I
have to say that since the photos on Ebay have increased contrast - which
can often hide light marks, I'd presume it was the same record. My only
gripe would have been the N- grading. It still looks like a respectable E+
copy to me though. Perhaps there is groove wear that I can't see.


Tim Huskisson

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[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Clifford Bolling
Sent: 04 January 2013 14:34
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Subject: [78-L] E*AY Seller Complaint - Bait & Switch on a $300 Record

Here are some pictures of the record I received:
Compare that with the photos and description in the auction.  It is the same
silver label record, just a different one.
'Twould have been nice to have received an original gold label Paramount of
this record, even in this condition.
Still haven't heard from 2ndfiddlerecords.  Keeping my fingers crossed! 
Also, there was $2.31 postage due at delivery.
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Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:01:10 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com>
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Clifford --  Looking through this listing,


he tells a very long and detailed story about how John Steiner produced the
black and silver pressings in the late 40s.  As Roger said, he knew he was
selling a late 40s replica, and actually he is telling you that in the
listing.  As Harold said, he should tell you it is a replica if it is, and
he DID tell you.  In the specifications under sub genre he states "John
Steiner: Paramount Records".

You say that the record you received is not the one in the photo. Is it a
black and silver?  Or did he actually sell a black and gold original from
the 1920s.  If what you got is a black and silver, whether or not it is the
exact one in the photo, he told you what it was.  If there is significent
label damage, that is not noted in the description or photos and you might
luck out and get a refund.  But you can't get a refund by claiming it is a
1920s original because his description never said it was.  If the label
damage is because it is a black and gold original, you did better than could
be expected!

Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
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