[78-L] Victor 24156 = HMV/Victor 24142 in Canada?

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sat Dec 29 10:13:27 PST 2012

Victor Canada did quite a lot of recoupling before 1925, because they were 
building up their own popular catalog in the 216000 series and ignoring a lot 
of American issues, to the consternation of the US brass. Post 1925 there are 
also some switches, such as 20077 and 21010, both Zez Confrey records. 20077 
has Dizzy Fingers and Kitten On the Keys in the States, but Dizzy Fingers and 
Polly (from 21010) in Canada. There's a Fats Waller recoupling on Canadian 
Victor in the early 30s as well (it's been mentioned, I don't have it here to 

As well, the 24000 series had been assigned as Red Label Classical in Canada in 
1926, so when black label issues got to that number in 1932, they had to have a 
zero in front of them for the Canadian issues.

For some reason, Wayne King's "Star Dust" and "Save the Last Dance for Me" are 
shown in Rust as on a Canadian issue, 25171.


On 12/29/2012 11:26 AM, Han Enderman wrote:
> An interesting discographical subject, mentioned long ago by David.
> I checked a group of Canadian Victor label scans in range 22500-25000,
> but did not find another example.
> An early example is Vic(C) 18789. This has:
> A - Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra, Sweetheart (25350-3), June 16, 1921
> B - Eubie Blake and His Shuffle Along Orchestra, Baltimore Buzz (25465-2), July 15, 1921.
> The Whiteman is Vic(US) 18789-B, and Blake is 18791-A.
> So it appears that sides also have been changed. Vic(C) wanted the Whiteman
> on its A-side and thus used the Whiteman release nr.
> Pres. similar on CDB's 24142, which must have one of the Bestor sides.
> Any other examples known?
> Checking scans, I saw Vic(C) 24199-A on a white with gold batwing label
> (Charles Dornberger, Old McDonald), which states:
> "First anniversary March 10th 1933". Anniversary of what?
> han enderman
> ===
>>>> What's on the A side? 24142 should be Don Bestor, My Darling and Along Came
> Love. Occasionally Victor Canada did some recoupling.
> dl
> On 12/28/2012 11:22 PM, Clifford Bolling wrote:
>> I have a Canadian HMV/Victor record of the Leo Reisman Orchestra performing 'Brother, Can You Spare A Dime'.  The label says it is 24142-B, the dead wax says 24156-B, the 78discography confirms the 24156-B number.  A printing error, or are Canadian records numbered differently?
>> You can see this record play on YouTube here:
>>    http://youtu.be/aGh9zXrPDCA
>> Thanks!  CDB
> <<<
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