[78-L] question for dance band experts

Kristjan Saag saag at telia.com
Wed Oct 24 18:37:43 PDT 2012


I have the impression that it was, indeed, invented for recording 
purposes. It was certainly advertised as being used by recording studios.

http://www.strohviolin-shop.com/en/hist.php
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/stroh-violin
http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/whipple/explore/acoustics/strohsautomaticphonograph/
Kristjan





On 2012-10-25 00:52, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
> So the Stroh violin was invented for performance, rather than the
> recording studio, correct?
>
> joe salerno
>
>
> On 10/24/2012 3:40 PM, Kristjan Saag wrote:
>> And even in the electric era many dance bands vocalists continued to use
>> horns in live performances...
>> Adevelopment, similar to the tuba base, was the use of Stroh violins
>> (where the sound was amplified by horns instead of wood resonances).
>> Strohpatented his violin in 1899,on the eve of recording industry. For
>> more than 20 years the Stroh violin was commonplace in recording studios
>> and was also used in live performances, as it is today, especially in
>> the Balkans.
>> With the advent of the electric erait was replaced, especially for live
>> performances, by electric violins, and for recording, by acoustic
>> violins amplified by means of microphones.
>> http://www.mainspringpress.com/studio_photos.html
>> (picture no 2)
>> Kristjan
>>
>> On 2012-10-24 21:34, Taylor Bowie wrote:
>>> Even in the electric recording era,  some bands used both tuba and string
>>> bass on recod...Isham Jones being one of the most noted.   There are also
>>> some Bert Lown Victors which clearly have both.
>>>
>>> My favorite banjo-and-guitar record would have to be the Goldkette of
>>> Clementine,  where there is a seamless transition from Qucksell's banjo when
>>> the sax chorus begins,  which is backed by Lang's guitar.
>>>
>>> Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tim Huskisson" <timhuskisson at btinternet.com>
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>>>
>>>> Although it is true that the Tuba and Banjo both recorded better than
>>>> String
>>>> Bass and Guitar, I think live performance instrumentation was pretty much
>>>> the same as that used in studios, though sometimes bands were augmented
>>>> with
>>>> extra musicians for recording (eg. strings). There are plenty of photos of
>>>> Dance bands in their resident surroundings (Hotels, etc).
>>>>
>>>> What is interesting however is the possibility that the use of
>>>> Tuba/Sousaphone may have become widely used in live performance AS A
>>>> RESULT
>>>> OF THE POPULARITY OF THE SOUND heard on records. i.e. If the phonograph
>>>> hadn't been invented, perhaps arrangers would have preferred to write for
>>>> String Bass. Electric recording seems to have begun the gradual
>>>> transformation from Brass bass back to String bass.
>>>>
>>>> It's also interesting to note that in many small groups - notably the
>>>> Original Dixieland Jass Band - No Bass instrument was considered
>>>> necessary -
>>>> either in live performance or on record. The Piano did all the work!
>>>>
>>>> Tim Huskisson
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com
>>>> Sent: 24 October 2012 14:00
>>>> To: 78-l
>>>> Subject: [78-L] question for dance band experts
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about acoustic dance bands. When they performed live in the
>>>> day, did they use the same instrumentation as they used for recordings,
>>>> such
>>>> as tubas for the low end, or did they have other instruments, such as
>>>> string
>>>> bass?
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking that they used more conventional instrumentation for live
>>>> performances, whatever that would be. Same as classical performances.
>>>> Would appreciate a confirmation or correction.
>>>> --
>>>> Joe Salerno
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