[78-L] oldest metal parts

[Erwin Kluwer]

The ones I have are the regular 7 inch size.. These are 1898 London
recordings made in August and September...

Erwin

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Kristjan Saag <saag at telia.com> wrote:

> Are you referring to US Berliners or the German discs? Direct cut
> commercial recordings or stampers?
>
> Some of the commercial recordings that were produced by Emile Berliner's
> brother in Germany 1890-1893 were direct cut zinc discs, as opposed to
> the usual hard rubber pressings.
> These (positive) zinc discs have, probably, all been played, whereas the
> stampers (whether the original father plate or stampers made from
> positive mother plates) could be pretty fresh.
> And when we talk about "metal parts", we mean stampers, don't we?
> Kristjan
>
>
> On 2012-10-14 13:29, Erwin Kluwer wrote:
> > The zinc Berliners are positive and thus can played directly..
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:05 AM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com <
> > neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So were these vinyls pressed from metal parts, or transfers made direct
> >> to CD from the metal parts without the extra generation of a pressing?
> >>
> >> I would like to discover the oldest existing metal part that can be
> >> heard as a direct transfer, not a pressing made there from.
> >>
> >> For clarity, are the Berliners positives or negatives?
> >>
> >> These would certainly be interesting to hear in direct transfers.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> joe salerno
> >>
> >> On 10/13/2012 12:01 PM, Erwin Kluwer wrote:
> >>> Historic Master released quite some 1902 recordings from the original
> >>> metals: among them recordings of Battistini, Van Rooy, etc.. Indeed
> some
> >> of
> >>> the 1902 metals of Caruso are know to exist.. ... Even further there
> are
> >>> surviving zinc masters of Berliner recordings, actually I own some of
> >>> those....
> >>>
> >>> Erwin
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:51 PM, David Weiner <djwein at earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The 1904 Nellie Melba & Tamango classical discs, reissued by Historic
> >>>> Masters? I believe a few of the 1902 Caruso G&Ts still exist as metal
> >>>> parts - or am I wrong?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave Weiner
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/12/12 1:42 PM, "neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com"
> >>>> <neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> What are the oldest metal parts known to survive? Has anyone ever
> >> issued
> >>>>> same on a CD or LP?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The oldest I am thinking of are those of the DDs at the Edison
> >>>>> Historical site, but have not been reissued.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anything older?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Joe Salerno
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