[78-L] Ya Gets What Ya Paid For

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Wed Sep 12 07:53:37 PDT 2012

Most of them also sound as if they were recorded at 4 in the morning, even when 
properly centered.


On 9/12/2012 10:51 AM, Jeff Sultanof wrote:
> The Institute of Jazz Studies and the WNEW collection at Lincoln Center
> have many records where one side is in perfect condition and the other has
> been worn beyond usability.
> Even George Simon in his book The Big Bands commented on Eckstine's
> off-center pressings, although he didn't name the label.
> Eckstine's National's are another story. Many of them sound like they were
> recorded in a box.
> Jeff Sultanof
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:
>> Same here..I have Big Mama's Hound Dog in "proof that it once existed"
>> condition, also known as S- (you can figure what S stands for). Others
>> like it.
>> Juke box records were ten cents at a few places in the 40s and 50s and you
>> figured you might get one listenable side, if not necessarily the right
>> one.
>> dl
>> On 9/12/2012 4:17 AM, Matthew Duncan wrote:
>>> I have had this with lots of Blues and R&B records - one side is
>> unplayable and the other is average.  I have even had ones where one side
>> cannot be played at all and the other side looks and sounds like
>> new...jukebox use didn't do records much good it seems!
>>> Matt in the UK
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>>>    From: Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
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>>> Subject: [78-L] Ya Gets What Ya Paid For
>>> Bought a copy of "Good Jelly Blues"/"I Stay in the Mood for You" by
>> Billy Eckstine&   his Orchestra on De Luxe 2000. I didn't pay much for it,
>> but held my breath when I opened up the box. Not because of the packing,
>> but because you never know what you're going to get when you buy a postwar
>> record without seeing it first. The seller only said it was in "very good
>> condition with a few surface scratches" and admitted he hadn't played it so
>> it was being sold as is. Well, I got what I asked for. The "Good Jelly"
>> side was in as good condition as any De Luxe could be - except that it was
>> so out-of-round, I had to move it a full quarter-inch off the spindle to
>> get it to play properly. You don't have to play the record to see how out
>> of round it is. In case you think I'm exaggerating, I measured it. The
>> lead-in is 1/8" on one end of the record and 3/8" on the other side. The
>> flip side was worn beyond gray - you could almost play both sides at the
>> same time, as we
>>>    used to say. Have you
>>> ever had a record so worn that the needle would not even follow the
>> grooves? That's how poor condition the B side was in.
>>> At least the labels were clean..This loser is good as a wall hanger only.
>>> Cary Ginell
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