[78-L] Somebody Needs to Step in and Educate this Guy

[David Lennick]

Neither side even looks like a Gennett cutting (why didn't I notice that?). 
Where's the close-cut run-out? The blank label side (which I hadn't looked at 
previously) is definitely a Columbia from c. 1923.

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On 7/22/2012 10:06 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
> This record stinks like rotten Wisconsin cheese.  Russ Shor alerted us
> to this record on Facebook yesterday on the "Come On and Stomp Stomp
> Stomp" page with the posting of a photo of the REAL Zulu's Ball.  The
> real one has six closely spaced lead-out grooves, the usual handwritten
> matrix number right at the grooves at the 6 oclock position, and a
> pressing ring close to the spindle hole like most Gennetts.  Mark
> Beresford posted a photo of a REAL 1923 Gennett test which has that
> pressing ring, a yellow label that has TEST at the top in large regular
> serif type, and underlined spaces for (in smaller type) DATE, TITLE, to
> the right of the hole LAB NO., and under the hole BY.  Below that it
> says in smaller letters RECORDING TEST with spaces for DATE, NO., and
> BY.  Mark doesn't say if it is a single sided pressing, but I recall
> seeing some Gennett test that were not only single sided but had large
> regularly spaced quarter inch bumps all over the other side.
>
> But what REALLY stinks about the ebay record is the reverse side.  Look
> at it.  It is a Comumbia-type laminated pressing with the Columbia
> pressing ring, a label with all the printing rubbed off, AND A MATRIX
> NUMBER WHICH HAS BEEN SCRAPED OFF.
>
> I have a suspicion that the Zulu's Ball side might be a production test
> pressing of a post-war pirate reissue.  Biltmore did one of Zulu's Ball,
> and I can go check if anyone did one of Just Gone.  (I just got several
> hundred Record Changer and other jazz journals from the 40s and 50s at
> the bash.)
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> -------- Original Message --------
>
> From: Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
>>> Wonder if he played it on the Califone record player it's sitting on. I wouldn't do that with a $99,000 record.  Cary Ginell
>
> On Jul 22, 2012, at 5:26 PM, david.diehl at hensteeth.com wrote:
>> Odd that the disc is pretty shopworn but the label is clean and white
>> (and not very authentic to my eye). David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Lewis [mailto:uncledavelewis at hotmail.com]
>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370632986650&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
>
> If it is an authentic record, and it looks like the real deal, then it
> would be an awesome find that could well illuminate the tortured
> trajectory of the most famous jazz 78 of all. But the sum is beyond
> ridiculous, the disc is not in the best of shape, and it would be nice
> to know what the mx. is onthe unlabeled flip. Of course, if someone was
> really in the know, and conducting a scam, they could use a real Gennett
> test and pencil in these notations; the disc couldby anything. Uncle
> Dave Lewis
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