[78-L] Vertical turntable

Robert M. Bratcher Jr. rbratcherjr at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 6 10:33:33 PDT 2012

I didn't know the Seeburg vertical turntable design was used till the late 1980's. Thats interesting. I knew they werre still using it in the 1960's as a friend of mine has an AY160 stereo machine with it. This is when Seeburg was starting to hide the turntable below with just a window showing it instead of leaving it exposed to view higher up in the M100 & others such as the late 50's 222 stereo jukebox. Really though I wouldn't mind owning the M100-A, the 222 plus the first home unit (78 rpm) SLBA-1 perhaps the industrial metal case version SICM too. Oh & I hate it when people convert 78 rpm jukeboxes to play 45's!!
Pictures of the SICM & SLBA units.
Couple videos of the 222 that are not mine.
This one shows it with better light.
The 45 rpm home library unit. 200LU-1
200C-1 home library unit.
And of course the M100-A that plays 78's!!
Don't know who's version of Mr Sandman it's playing. Not the more common Chordettes version.

>From: David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com>
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>Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 10:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [78-L] Vertical turntable
> From: Robert M. Bratcher Jr. <rbratcherjr at yahoo.com>
>> Seeburg jukeboxes had vertical turntables starting with the M100-A in 1948 
>> through the 1960's that I know of. Perhaps in the 70's too.
>Seeburg made vertical play machines right through to the end in
>the 1980s. In fact, one of the reasons they were compelled to
>develop a CD jukebox mechanism (in cooperation with Sony) was
>because the tooling for the 45 mechanism was worn out.
>BTW, the reason I put a smiley by the link is that this is
>my machine, which I've owned since 1976.  My parents bought it
>for me as a Christmas present for $35!  Like a large number
>of M100-As, it had been converted to play 33 LPs.  Many more
>were converted to play 45s, and that conversion is almost
>impossible to reverse.  I made this video a few years ago to
>show owners of the converted machines what one looks like
>playing 78s.
>>  The Seeburg 
>> home units from the 40's through the 60's had the same vertical 
>> turntable design. The first home unit was a very large 78 rpm machine (that also 
>> had an industrial counterpart) & it was the forerunner to the M100-A coin 
>> operatede jukebox which was Seeburg's last 78 rpm jukebox then they switched 
>> to 45 rpm both for the jukeboxes & the home units. There was also a big 
>> console home unit in the 1960's that played 33 rpm LP's with the same 
>> vertical turntable design.
>It's arguable that the 45 would not have succeeded without
>Seeburg's active involvement.  Remember, Columbia just assumed
>that 78s would continue to be the format of choice for
>singles.  Seeburg took the extraordinary step of scrapping 
>its 78 mechanism (at the time the world's most advanced
>record changer by an order of magnitude, and the one that
>allowed Seeburg to finally topple Wurlitzer from its
>position of dominance in the industry) after only one model,
>the M100-A, and came out with the M100-B in 1950.  They also
>established a distribution system for 45 records for jukebox
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