[78-L] eBay rant

Fri Mar 30 15:39:39 PDT 2012

I don't think eBay is any worse or better for records than it was five or 
ten years ago.  Good and bad sellers still come and go,  and I can think of 
at least a dozen regular sellers who are on there right now,  pretty much 
every week,  who sell very nice stuff in nice condition.  There is one 
seller from whom I've bought about 800 records since 1999,  and I still  buy 
from him on a regular basis.

I don't look at every 78,  but I do have a few saved searches of certain key 
words which let me focus on my main interests.  My collection at this point 
is over 20,000 10" 78s so I really don't worry that I might be missing 
something at times.

Taylor

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cary Ginell" <soundthink at live.com>
To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [78-L] eBay rant

>
> What I'm wondering is if all this uneducated activity might be working to 
> artificially and permanently inflate the perceived value of 78 rpm 
> records. It started years ago in antikee malls, where purveyors of garage 
> sale detritus would display scratched up 78s without sleeves, bearing 
> price tags of $10, no matter what they were (I still see these in a few 
> Las Vegas malls)
>
> Cary Ginell
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:35:48 +0000
>> From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net
>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] eBay rant
>>
>> It is a self-perpetuating prophecy. One buffoon sets a ridiculous minimum 
>> bid for a Henry Burr Pathe Record, and then additional sellers who have 
>> know idea what this junk is worth, will follow suit with the same $15.00 
>> minimum bid or buy it now price. I used to review the Pathe records, on 
>> ebay because I have a Pathe machine, and used to occasionally find a good 
>> artist and selection that I could place a fair bid on. Not any more, the 
>> inmates are now running the asylum, and everything from the boring to the 
>> interesting are all set at outlandishly high starting or buy it now 
>> prices. It is now a haven for total fools, selling to even bigger fools, 
>> if and when the crap ever sells, which is very very seldom. Senseless, 
>> totally senseless.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Malcolm - Venerable Music" < malcolm @ venerablemusic .com>
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l@ klickitat .78online.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:58:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] eBay rant
>>
>> Hey Cary - Unfortunately this does not include the Buy It Now items! I 
>> never
>> look at those as it's almost never worth the time spent. The auction only
>> items are out of control!
>> The problem is that I also collect ethnic records so there is no way to
>> properly filter out the 1000 listed Bollywood records and look at the 
>> rest
>> of the things I might be interested in. The same goes with jazz 
>> especially
>> as most can not distinguish big band and swing from actual jazz records.
>> It's not as much that I have to look at stuff that I'm not interested 
>> in - I
>> don't mind that at all. It's that I have to look at them over and over 
>> again
>> every week! It was not as much of a problem with 6000 listings, but 
>> 14,000
>> is a mess.
>> And don't get me started on those free listing days! That is just an 
>> excuse
>> to flood the system with every item that didn't sell the first time 
>> because
>> no one was interested or it was priced too high. I actually avoid looking 
>> at
>> all on the morning after!
>> Malcolm
>>
>> Venerable Music - http :// www . venerablemusic .com
>> Venerable Radio - http :// www . venerableradio .com
>> 78rpm Record Auctions - http :// www . vmauctions .com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Cary Ginell
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:43 PM
>> To: 78-l@ klickitat .78online.com
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] eBay rant
>>
>>
>> I would say that a good percentage of the garbage is all Buy It Now stuff
>> that just lays there and gathers moss. You can filter all of this out by
>> just checking Auction Only when you search, and then you can also search 
>> by
>> genre to eliminate all the Bollywood 78s. I almost never just browse 
>> through
>> all the 78 listings anymore.
>>
>> Cary Ginell
>>
>>
>> > From: malcolm @ venerablemusic .com
>> > To: 78-l@ klickitat .78online.com
>> > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:35:47 -0400
>> > Subject: Re: [78-L] eBay rant
>> >
>> > Mal - I'm 100% with you and have gotten to the point where I just can't
>> > look
>> > at everything & I've been just giving up a lot.
>> > There used to routinely be about 6000 auction listings in a given week 
>> > and
>> > suddenly it's double that (and yes, I know the Indian listings you're
>> > speaking of - ha! Had to wade through those twice and I'm sure will 
>> > have
>> > to
>> > again soon.)!
>> > Week in and week out the same crap over and over again. If Ebay would 
>> > just
>> > institute a very simple database filter that would allow you to exclude
>> > any
>> > item that has been relisted it would solve much of this browsing
>> > frustration.
>> > Also, if they would stop charging such outrageous fees to have a store
>> > front, more of these items could be moved to Buy It Now to sit until 
>> > that
>> > right person comes along.
>> > I quit as a seller quite awhile back & am becoming frustrated with 
>> > buying
>> > there as well. Sometime you get deals, but damn it's a lot of work and
>> > time
>> > spent for those! My obsessive nature makes it hard to quit looking, but
>> > ebay
>> > could certainly do some things to make their browsing easier. When was 
>> > the
>> > last time ebay actually instituted a change that actually made things
>> > better?? The 50 free auction listings per month maybe? But other than
>> > that -
>> > ha!
>> > The other Malcolm
>> >
>> > Venerable Music - http :// www . venerablemusic .com
>> > Venerable Radio - http :// www . venerableradio .com
>> > 78rpm Record Auctions - http :// www . vmauctions .com
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- 
>> > From: Malcolm Rockwell
>> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:19 PM
>> > To: 78-L Mail List
>> > Subject: [78-L] eBay rant
>> >
>> > Ahem (he says, mounting his soapbox)...
>> > I still troll the daily 78 offerings on eBay every morning over my
>> > morning coffee and it seems the idiots have fully taken over. I've 
>> > never
>> > seen so much ballast in one place. It looks like any sellers with 
>> > decent
>> > and/or interesting material have fled to other venues, and the prices
>> > for the crap that's there are stunning. And I'm just taking about the
>> > auctions; I won't even go into the "Buy It Now" stuff.
>> > How about 3 Fritz Kreisler 78s starting at almost $75? Or the 
>> > relatively
>> > common - and slightly grayed - "Mean Old Frisco" by Arthur Crudup on
>> > Bluebird with a starting bid of a mere $50? It has become rare to see 
>> > 50
>> > cent or $1.00 records going for less than $10. How about Dean Martin's
>> > supposed first record on Diamond for a mere $119? And the floods of
>> > classical, Indian (today there were around 1000 of these starting at 
>> > $10
>> > each!), and overpriced Philippine reissues?
>> > Not only that but some sellers have been double listing material so,
>> > just in case you may have missed their records on Monday, they'll show
>> > up again on Thursday or a week later.
>> > Empty sleeves for $12 each and up anyone?
>> > What a bunch of crap. Well at least it's all in one place should one
>> > need to find some and have money to blow. Used to be eBay was fun. Now
>> > it's merely tedium.
>> > Bah!
>> > End of rant.
>> > Malcolm
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