[78-L] Toscanini

[Philip Carli]

There are several references to Toscanini at least partially reorchestrating LES PATINEURS I remember encountering, though I can't cite exactly where at the moment. As for simply adjusting it for a larger orchestra, the original orchestration is big to begin with, and, with an obvious unique exception, standard in Waldteufel dances: strings, double woodwind + piccolo, 4 horns, 2 cornets, 3 trombones, ophicleide or euphonium, tympani, side/bass drums, cymbals, triangle, and of course sleigh bells. (That's the Henry Litolff's Verlag set, which also assigned the piece its fictitious "op.183". When Litolff acquired Waldteufel publication rights, it started assigning its own opus nos. starting at op.100 and going up from there, with several big gaps.)

Adding to this is that there is a little debate whether Waldteufel used an orchestrator to begin with, as he was a pianist and evidently composed at the piano initially.  I think not, myself, but that's me and my studies only.  I don't know of any Waldteufel holograph full scores.

Finally, a bit of trivia: did you know Waldteufel was the earliest-born (1837) conductor to record?  A very few sides for French Gramophone that didn't last long in the catalogues. I've never heard them, but they're among my top things to track down.

PC
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From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] on behalf of Don Cox [doncox at enterprise.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:26 AM
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Hello DAVID

On 12/03/2012, DAVID BURNHAM wrote:
> Didn't Toscanini orchestrate "Skaters' Waltz"?
>
He performed it, but Waldteufel composed the piece for orchestra, so
there would be no need for an orchestral arrangement.

Possibly minor adjustments for an orchestra bigger than Waldteufel's
own. But I see no mention of "arrangement" in RCA's booklet or in
Mortimer Frank's book.

Regards
--
Don Cox
doncox at enterprise.net

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