[78-L] An Orchestra Rehearsal

Jeff Sultanof jeffsultanof at gmail.com
Wed Mar 7 21:01:58 PST 2012


There was an LP of a rehearsal with Pablo Casals conducting a string
orchestra in a Bach work. I can't remember details, but it came out in the
late sixties on Columbia.

Jeff Sultanof

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. <
rbratcherjr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have a few of those analysis+performance records but I don't remember
> what they are by or what the composer is. One is a 12" with the anaysis on
> one side & the other is a 12" performance record with a 10" analysis
> record. What do you want for the Beecham dupe & how do you wish to be paid
> for it? Somewhat scratchy is fine.....
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> >To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:57 PM
> >Subject: Re: [78-L] An Orchestra Rehearsal
> >
> >If you're not too particular, I have a somewhat scratchy dupe of the
> Beecham
> >(radio station discard) on HMV. The Hanson albums aren't rehearsals as it
> turns
> >out, but analysis+performance affairs.
> >
> >dl
> >
> >On 3/7/2012 10:37 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> >> Thanks, I'll try to find those on Ebay. Picked up the Bruno Walter
> album many years ago in a resale shop that had some LP's.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> >>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:29 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] An Orchestra Rehearsal
> >>>
> >>> Off the top of my head and the top of the shelf, here are a few:
> >>>
> >>> BEECHAM IN REHEARSAL..WORLD SH 147, previously HMV, previously a
> giveaway
> >>> produced by Capitol for High Fidelity
> >>>
> >>> MONTEUX: BEETHOVEN 9TH SYMPHONY + 1 SIDE OF REHEARSALS..WESTMINSTER
> WST 234
> >>>
> >>> ANSERMET: THE FIREBIRD + REHEARSALS..LONDON FBD-S-1
> >>>
> >>> I thought I had Rodzinski rehearsing but it's just a memorial album
> with
> >>> excerpts from issued recordings and his farewell to the orchestra.
> >>>
> >>> HOWARD HANSON did a few Mercury albums where he'd break down one
> composition
> >>> (one of his) and then play it complete. I haven't listened to those.
> >>>
> >>> BOULT rehearsed The Young Person's Guide and that was issued along
> with the
> >>> complete performance (Westminster again).
> >>>
> >>> dl
> >>>
> >>> On 3/7/2012 10:20 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> >>>> Yes thats the one!! Are the other 2 or 3 conductors doing rehearsals
> that you meantioned available on commercial LP's? If so then what are they
> plus label&  record number if you can find it. I'd love to hear them one
> day.....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> >>>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:05 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] An Orchestra Rehearsal
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's Mozart..DSL 224, The Birth of a Performance, Mozart Linz
> Symphony +
> >>>>> rehearsals (fortunately my Dead Conductors are filed
> alphabetically). There's
> >>>>> lots of interesting Toscanini rehearsal stuff but I remember that 78
> as being
> >>>>> unlistenable and badly miked.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> dl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/7/2012 9:08 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> >>>>>> It might be Mozart but I don't remember&  the LP set (grey six eye)
> is somewhere in my massive record accumulation. I'd love to hear the other
> rehearsals you meantion as well as any Toscaninni ones too.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> >>>>>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:59 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] An Orchestra Rehearsal
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I thought it was Mozart, but I haven't looked at any of those
> rehearsal records
> >>>>>>> in a long time. Some of them are interesting..I have Monteux and
> Rodzinski
> >>>>>>> rehearsals, among others. And the classic is a whole LP of Beecham
> singing
> >>>>>>> along with Mozart and I think Haydn.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> dl
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 3/7/2012 8:08 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> >>>>>>>> There's a 2 LP set on Columbia with Bruno Walter rehearsing the
> orchestra for the same symphony (either Beethoven or Brahms) thats played
> on the first LP. It's somewhere in my vinyl collection as a set of 12" LP's
> with it's original jacket. I don't remember which symphony it is but the
> rehearsal is interesting to listen to.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'd love to hear the Fiedler&  Toscaninni discs some day!!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> >>>>>>>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:29 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] An Orchestra Rehearsal
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Pretty pointless, as I recall. Another gem was Toscanini
> screaming at his
> >>>>>>>>> musicians, on a blue label disc put out by Jack L. Caidin.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> dl
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 3/7/2012 6:28 PM, DAVID BURNHAM wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I just ran across a curious record called "An Orchestra
> Rehearsal" by Theodore Cella, performed by Arthur Fiedler and the Boston
> P.O.  I don't know if it's supposed to be funny or instructive.  It's hard
> to hear the conductor's comments because he isn't miked and the orchestra
> is very loud.  I don't know if the entire production was written by Cella
> or just the music they're rehearsing.  The only hint that it's supposed to
> be comical is that it sounds like the harpist breaks a string when he's
> asked to play a solo, (Theodore Cella is or was a harpist, I can't find any
> dates for him but there is a photograph of him on line playing the harp in
> the New York Phil. from 1938 so if he is still alive he must be at least
> 100 years old).  It's on both sides of a 10 inch 78 and the first half of
> the second side is just the sound of orchestra noodling, then they play the
> piece they had been rehearsing, (a very short piece, probably less than a
> minute
> >>>>>>      long).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> db
> >>>>>>>>>
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