[78-L] Spontaneous recordings that were released [fwd]

[David Lennick]

I have a Richmond reissue of Ansermet's recording of The Rite of Spring where 
the orchestra plays part of a passage, stops, then plays it again..clearly a 
missed edit or a cut to a different take, and an editor who didn't know Stravinsky.

dl

On 2/6/2012 7:46 PM, Bud Black wrote:
> At one time I had a 12" acoustic Victor recording of " the Poet and Peasant Overture" that had the unmistakable street sounds of auto horns after the final notes were played.  It must have been stifling in the Camden studio so they merely opened a window.
>
> Bud
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Mike Harkin<xxm.harkin at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
>> My favourite horrible example is Edwin Fischer's Bach WTC,Book I, #4 C#
>> minor [the fugue], he hits a hideous clanger near the end, corrects himself very emphatically<  and soldiers on to the end.  Often wondered how this got passed....
>>
>> I,ve read liner notes that say you can hear motorcycles outside the studio in some Panzera discs, and the rumble of the underground in some NY and London recordings.  Probrbly due to tinnitus I've never detected this.
>>
>> Mike in Plovdiv
>>
>> --- On Mon, 2/6/12, DAVID BURNHAM<burnhamd at rogers.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> From: DAVID BURNHAM<burnhamd at rogers.com>
>>> Subject: [78-L] Spontaneous recordings that were released
>>> To: "78-L at 78online.com"<78-L at 78online.com>
>>> Date: Monday, February 6, 2012, 7:43 PM
>>> I don't know if this is the kind of
>>> thing you're talking about but there are several classical
>>> examples of spontaneous comments getting onto a record.  On
>>> Sir Thomas Beecham's recording of the Damnation of Faust
>>> Orchestral selections you can hear Sir Thomas saying, "Very
>>> well done, gentlemen" in the runout spiral.  On the
>>> Piatagorgsky recording of Schumann's A minor cello Concerto
>>>   you can hear the conductor complimenting the soloist.
>>>   They apparently tried to retake this side but none of the
>>> retakes measured up to the first take.  I think the comment
>>> may have been removed from some of the releases.  Also,
>>> Vladimir de Pachmann was known for adding comments to his
>>> recordings or stopping and re-starting a performance while
>>> the disc was spinning.  A mystery to me has always been the
>>> Boston Pops recording of "Bolero".  On the third side the
>>> trombones completely mess up near the end of the piece and
>>> you can almost hear them laughing while they're
>>> playing.  I'm sure they thought they would do a retake but
>>> they obviously didn't.  I wonder if Fiedler was fed up with
>>> them and let the thing be released as it was played.  I
>>> know that brass players seem to do more horseplay than other
>>> sections of the orchestra and can often try the patience of
>>> conductors.
>>>
>>> db