[78-L] fake stereo
David Lennick
dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sat Dec 10 11:50:46 PST 2011
Oog, Mercury fake stereo....I think they'd leave the tapes out in the rain for
a week before playing them. Platters, Eddy Howard..unlistenable in stereo, let
alone mono.
And RCA more than once reissued a Greatest Hits compilation by mixing a fake
stereo tape down to mono (I think Eddie Fisher was one).
dl
On 12/10/2011 2:46 PM, Royal Pemberton wrote:
> I once heard a Sinatra greatest hits LP on Capitol that said Duophonic and
> just used EQ and not the infamous delay, so they folded nicely to mono.
> Mercury in the US often made fake stereo by having the original mono in one
> channel with the bass slightly reduced, and a bassy, reverbed effect in the
> other channel; these can sound decent by using the dry channel with some EQ.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Michael Biel<mbiel at mbiel.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Randy Watts<rew1014 at yahoo.com>
>>> Some rechanneled stereo folds down to mono reasonably well and some
>> doesn't.
>>> If all they did was emphasize the treble in one channel and the bass in
>> other,
>>> you can often get listenable results, albeit usually with extra reverb.
>>> Other processes--not so much. Capitol's "Duophonic" process is pretty
>> much hopeless.
>>> At least I've never been able to get the things to sound like mono.
>>> Same with RCA Victor's process. Randy
>>
>> During that era some companies were also adding reverb to their mono
>> issues as well, so those are likewise hopeless. I remember a couple of
>> Duophonic records which combined to mono very well but can't remember
>> which ones now. The processes most labels used would differ from album
>> to album and sometimes from track to track. RCA usually filtered the
>> highs to the left and put a triple echo and the bass to the right. The
>> left channel can sometimes be used alone with some added bass. I have
>> some Perry Como and Belafonte albums that are the Perry Como Quartet and
>> Belefonte Quartet. The re-echoing of the already echoed Elvis recordings
>> was truly amazing. It was the Elvis Quartet and the Stamps Octet.
>>
>> The biggest irony is back in the early days of CDs, RCA issued a group
>> of Elvis albums with an electronic stereo logo included on the covers,
>> and the critics EXPLODED! So RCA apologized and redid the CDs from the
>> original mono studio tapes, and sold off the first issues as cut-outs.
>> They were the very first drilled cheap CDs I ever saw so I bought them
>> as historic relics. They were pure perfect MONO, recorded from some
>> good condition early work tapes made at the time the masters were new
>> and in good condition. Then I heard the mono replacements and found
>> that they had been played incorrectly from badly warped acetate original
>> studio tapes with the highs swishing in and out.
>>
>> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Christopher Steward<chris.1picc at yahoo.co.uk>
>>
>>> This is not quite on topic, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who
>> can give some information/advice.
>>> I'm interested in restoring an 'electronic stereo' disc to decent mono
>> sound; clearly I need to reverse whatever original processing was applied,
>> if possible, but I don't know what that would have been. Were there
>> different approaches? Can anyone advise how I can go about investigating
>> this?
>> Thanks, Chris
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