[78-L] fake stereo

[Royal Pemberton]

Although last evening I was in a store and heard a recording on the
background music system with no stereo troubles....quite a surprise to hear
'Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow' by Vaughn Monroe!

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:43 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> When was the last time you were in a store and heard music with such wide
> separation that the vocal disappeared entirely on the speaker near you?
> That
> happened the other day in a store in Buffalo, tuned to JOY (all Christmas).
> Something by the Ray Conniff Singers. I didn't think Columbia ever used
> that
> much wide separation. Command (Ray Charles Singers) and Liberty (Felix
> Slatkin
> on the left, then Felix Slatkin on the right) and London (Ronnie vs
> Aldrich), yes.
>
> dl
>
> On 12/10/2011 2:37 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
> > From: Randy Watts<rew1014 at yahoo.com>
> >> Some rechanneled stereo folds down to mono reasonably well and some
> doesn't.
> >> If all they did was emphasize the treble in one channel and the bass in
> other,
> >> you can often get listenable results, albeit usually with extra reverb.
> >> Other processes--not so much. Capitol's "Duophonic" process is pretty
> much hopeless.
> >> At least I've never been able to get the things to sound like mono.
> >> Same with RCA Victor's process.    Randy
> >
> > During that era some companies were also adding reverb to their mono
> > issues as well, so those are likewise hopeless.  I remember a couple of
> > Duophonic records which combined to mono very well but can't remember
> > which ones now.  The processes most labels used would differ from album
> > to album and sometimes from track to track.  RCA usually filtered the
> > highs to the left and put a triple echo and the bass to the right.  The
> > left channel can sometimes be used alone with some added bass.  I have
> > some Perry Como and Belafonte albums that are the Perry Como Quartet and
> > Belefonte Quartet. The re-echoing of the already echoed Elvis recordings
> > was truly amazing.  It was the Elvis Quartet and the Stamps Octet.
> >
> > The biggest irony is back in the early days of CDs, RCA issued a group
> > of Elvis albums with an electronic stereo logo included on the covers,
> > and the critics EXPLODED!  So RCA apologized and redid the CDs from the
> > original mono studio tapes, and sold off the first issues as cut-outs.
> > They were the very first drilled cheap CDs I ever saw so I bought them
> > as historic relics.  They were pure perfect MONO, recorded from some
> > good condition early work tapes made at the time the masters were new
> > and in good condition.  Then I heard the mono replacements and found
> > that they had been played incorrectly from badly warped acetate original
> > studio tapes with the highs swishing in and out.
> >
> > Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Christopher Steward<chris.1picc at yahoo.co.uk>
> >
> >> This is not quite on topic, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who
> can give some information/advice.
> >>    I'm interested in restoring an 'electronic stereo' disc to decent
> mono sound; clearly I need to reverse whatever original processing was
> applied, if possible, but I don't know what that would have been. Were
> there different approaches? Can anyone advise how I can go about
> investigating this?
> > Thanks,  Chris
> > _______
> >
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